Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

blue61 said:
The problem is whoever comes in is going to need a transitional time. I have no issue with Pep being on a rolling year contract I don't believe the players would be affected at all. Lets face it a lot of players probably prefer that as they need a new face at times

Pep has always said he would walk away if he wasn't getting the feeling of commitment from the players. I personally think he will end up staying 2 seasons on a rolling contract.

We have a relatively young squad with a lot of potentially great youngsters to come through. They can be nurtured and integrated over the next season or two primed for a new manager if required
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For me transition periods depend upon the quality of the manager and squad. Pep inherited a squad which needed A LOT of work in key areas. Hence he needed a full year and two windows.

The current squad is far better. Were Pep to go next summer I'd bet anything whoever the next manager is would mount a title challenge next season. The muscle memory alone from Pep's coaching would see to that.
 
BillyShears said:
For me transition periods depend upon the quality of the manager and squad. Pep inherited a squad which needed A LOT of work in key areas. Hence he needed a full year and two windows.

The current squad is far better. Were Pep to go next summer I'd bet anything whoever the next manager is would mount a title challenge next season. The muscle memory alone from Pep's coaching would see to that.
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I have no doubt we would challenge, I was intimating we might not win the league with a new manager first season. I agree that muscle memory is a key ingredient we saw that when MP took over from Mancini.
 
BillyShears said:
No offence but you clearly have set your stall out when it comes to Poch - I believe you used the term 'loser'.

I wish you all the best if he does succeed Pep as you'll have a lot of backtracking to do.
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I never backtrack , he would have to prove me wrong, if he did then great as it means we would be winning things , till then my view remains that he is a loser, bottler

Didnt you insist on mourinho once ?
 
BillyShears said:
Sometimes. Other times he says he has no concerns about being in the last 12 months of his contract because it absolutely won't effect the players because they're "top professionals".

Using the players/owners will, when clearly both want him to stay, as an excuse for not signing a new deal is poor form. I'd rather he said "I've not decided what I want to do" which is probably closer to the truth.
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If both want him to stay, why does he have to convince us?
 
citizen_maine said:
If both want him to stay, why does he have to convince us?
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By us you mean the supporters I'm guessing? I suppose it depends upon your view of the the team since the start of last season. For me (I shouldn't really speak for anyone else and apologies for making it seem like that in my previous post), I feel as though some of the issues we've faced can be traced back to decisions which Pep has made. It's up to him to arrest the slide that we've been on. If he does excellent, but if he doesn't and this season ends up falling apart the way last season did, I wouldn't want him staying another year. 2 seasons of stagnation and slide isn't good enough at City.
 
BillyShears said:
By us you mean the supporters I'm guessing? I suppose it depends upon your view of the the team since the start of last season. For me (I shouldn't really speak for anyone else and apologies for making it seem like that in my previous post), I feel as though some of the issues we've faced can be traced back to decisions which Pep has made. It's up to him to arrest the slide that we've been on. If he does excellent, but if he doesn't and this season ends up falling apart the way last season did, I wouldn't want him staying another year. 2 seasons of stagnation and slide isn't good enough at City.
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I guess we'd have to assume that the owners/players/fans would be in agreement about that by then though. Or not :-)
 
kaz7 said:
I never backtrack , he would have to prove me wrong, if he did then great as it means we would be winning things , till then my view remains that he is a loser, bottler

Didnt you insist on mourinho once ?
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You've summed up 117,000 posts into 2 sentences.
 
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BillyShears said:
I know. Lets go after Ronald Koeman if Pep goes. After all he's already at a top club so he must be that good.
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Joking aside, i rate Koeman over Pochetino.

Not that i would want either to manage City as such, but if we are going to be facetious for the sake of it, Koeman is by far the better manager for me.

Neither is as good as Pep.
 
citizen_maine said:
I guess we'd have to assume that the owners/players/fans would be in agreement about that by then though. Or not :-)
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Haha. I guess so!

Think the owners/board have set their stall out. They want Pep for the long term full stop. Let's see if it is an unrequited love or if Pep reciprocates.
 
BillyShears said:
Haha. I guess so!

Think the owners/board have set their stall out. They want Pep for the long term full stop. Let's see if it is an unrequited love or if Pep reciprocates.
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I think we'd all want a successful Pep for the long run? It then comes down to individual party's definition of success :-)
 
BillyShears said:
198 points in 2 seasons made up for thirty odd years of rubbish for me! And tbf to Pep, it's VERY hard to progress from there without 20/20 foresight.
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Do you see anyone else 'progressing' over the 198 point seasons?

So many people are claiming last season was a huge let down, and we went backwards, regressing etc. Aye, in comparison to the 198pt seasons, we are. In comparison to the three seasons before that, or even mancini's last season, we improved, a higher points tally, even with nothing to play for the last few games. So i don't buy that we are plummeting. We didn't live up to the benchmark set with Pep, fair enough, but who will/can?

If poch comes in, or koeman, or rodgers, or whoever, i will support them.

Till then, am i fuck going to wish this season away under a manager that had done so well with this club, just to jump start the next 'project', whatever thay may be. Of he is here Anothed year beyond this season, all the more reason to support him and celebrate whatever success the team can achieve. But to wish for another manager now, because he might not be here for the next 3 years , blows my mind, when he currently is the best manager for this and next season.
 
I think we need to remind ourselves that seasons 2017-8 and 2018-9 were unprecedented and I still have to pinch myself to believe it was City, the successor of typical City, that set so many records. Our expectations changed overnight and 81 points in a season is disappointing. We cannot, surely, expect 100 points every season or a domestic treble as a minimum! It is likely that "we will have to make do with" less, especially as, just like our nearest neighbour, we are actually "in transition". Ya Ya, Zaba, Vinnie and David have already gone from a squad that dominated a decade and what a hole they left! Sergio and Ferna will follow soon and before that their role will be reduced thanks to Old Father Time - two more irreplaceables. That makes one hell of a rebuild necessary for the club. And who would be trust more than anyone else if it isn't the genius that took an ageing squad and turned them into the Centurions and the Fourmidables.
 
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