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Churchlawtonblue said:
France is only just 2 weeks past its peak 7day average cases of over 56000 and the levels are so low they are anouncing a lifting of lockdown measures.
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I don't trust some of these drops, here or elsewhere, much quicker than they did first time, and it's certainlt not people acting better (here).

The trouble is open up again too much, and in 5 or 6 weeks the numbers will be back where they were, especially with most contact being indoors.
 
Two of our Christmas households will be my Mrs’ family. How do I use our one remaining household card when I’ve got parents that are divorced? I’m in a situation where I’ve pretty much decided to spend quality time with neither of my parents at Christmas. I love them both equally, I’m not choosing between them. I know it would hurt the other hugely. It’s shit but I don’t see another alternative really. I’d rather leave that final household card unused.
 
Pablo1 said:
This might sound like a simple solution mate, but why don’t you just get a test on xmas eve or day before and if it’s negative you can see them safe in the knowledge you won’t be passing it on to them.
If that’s all you’re worried about for a £100 or so you can take away much of the stress this is causing you.
Obviously it doesn’t take away the risk of others bringing it into the house but your conscience will be clear at least.
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Thought about that, but then false negatives, incubation time etc.
 
cleavers said:
I don't trust some of these drops, here or elsewhere, much quicker than they did first time, and it's certainlt not people acting better (here).

The trouble is open up again too much, and in 5 or 6 weeks the numbers will be back where they were, especially with most contact being indoors.
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Did you trust when they said the figures were rising? Why would they lie about one but not the other?
 
twosips said:
I didn't see your post before having a whine about christmas. I feel like a dick now. sorry mate. Shite that. Best of luck to your mum. No one should have to go through that.
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Don't be daft. Its awful for many of us in different ways, We're just sitting tight and hoping everyone else sorts their 3 household get together out and forgets about us! My parents are in their 80s, so they will stay put. Ill go over weekly and provide care, as I do now, but no family party.
 
cleavers said:
I don't trust some of these drops, here or elsewhere, much quicker than they did first time, and it's certainlt not people acting better (here).

The trouble is open up again too much, and in 5 or 6 weeks the numbers will be back where they were, especially with most contact being indoors.
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No, if it was one or two countries maybe, it’s become apattern in 5 or 6 of those that had the steepest rises in europe.W e can see it with the slow down of hospital admissions too.
 
artfuldodger said:
I’ve been trying to get an appointment since March. Telephone call consultation only.
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Had my yearly health review In February (done by the Practice Nurse who is great) and was told the medication I took for my heart arrhythmia was not suitable now as it was causing my blood pressure to become unstable. I had an appointment to see the Doctor to change my meds in March, never got that appointment and 8 months later I'm still on the old meds with a BP of possibly around 180 which it was in Feb, ticking time bomb and no chance of a further review at the moment.
 
artfuldodger said:
My Mum has slowly gone blind due to cataracts. Waiting list is supposed to be 18 weeks max. Currently in mums area, 38 weeks minimum. She’s had an appointment to go private, but they also have a waiting list. Apparently going blind through cataracts doesnt count as an emergency procedure. Prioritising Covid above all else will have long term consequences.
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Shocking, yet my mate had a knee replacement in early October at Tameside.
 
oman0115 said:
we will never know the true number of people who’ve died from missed appointments, cancelled treatments, fear of reaching out for medical treatment and neglect in the name of covid. I needed to see the doctor a few months, not a life threatening thing but still a painful one. Appointment cancelled and I got a lousy phone call instead which I’ve not heard anything from since!
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I seriously dont get the surgery position on,not allowing patients in,
I get a txt every now & then from mine stating the same shit,
Do not come to the surgery.
I understand h&s,
Just like hospitals,specialist wards cancer,ent,etc.
Surely everyone in them departments cant all be on covid-19 wards,its scandalous people dying without their treatment or even check ups.
Feel sorry for all those people.
 
All deaths in E & W by week (registered) from 2010 to 13/11/2020 (red line represents 13/11 in every year)
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twosips said:
Anyone else dreading Christmas? Just got an awful lot worse now the rules have changed for me personally. Family disputes are inevitable. I don't want to put my parents at risk, so i'll likely stay outside if i see them and just accept it's gonna be a bit naff. My brother is a conspiracy theorist who thinks the whole thing is a load of bollocks, annoyingly, and has been in their house plenty of times. I'm so tired of it all that I just can't be arsed arguing about it anymore. My mum has promised he always sits at a distance etc, and I believe her on that, but that's almost pointless given he's in the house so what fuck all use is the distance bit. I know he'll be expecting a normal-ish christmas. As will my sister given she's got kids. Especially given the rule changes and the allowed bubbling...and now it's gonna me as the big bad guy being awkward and being the only one not going indoors as we do every christmas day.

It'll inevitably cause huge fucking arguments and I just can't be arsed. And then a part of me thinks 'maybe I could see them and it'd be okay', and another part goes 'yeah, good luck with living with that insane feeling of guilt if one of them catches it and something terrible happens'...and then another part goes 'imagine you didn't hug them and celebrate christmas and something happened in January to them'. Plus my missus won't be seeing her mum as she's high at risk. So it'd be selfish of me. Just a shite rock and a hard place. I know people will be in worse situations, but I seriously cba. Just wish they'd not changed anything so I at least had 'rules are rules' to fall back on.

Sorry, just venting as I'm exhausted and this whole thing is driving me mad. Constant worrying and that shite foreboding feeling of a huge argument on the horizon with absolutely zero chance of it resolving. Unreasonable, childish family, sadly! Wish christmas would just fuck off this year, and I usually love it.
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Various forms of this argument will emerge over Christmas. I would usually go to my parents every year but the mrs lost her Dad in January so i'd be a bit of an arsehole if I wasn't here on Christmas day. I have plans to go home in the time between Christmas and New Year. I feel like I shouldn't but I have honestly had no choice but to be isolated for most of the year because of where I live. I've stopped going to the shop because it winds me up - I only see two people, the postman and the Mrs (not at the same time by the way!!)

The problem is that the mrs' sister is a conspiracist and anti-masker. This year she will be without her Dad for the first time too. I don't really want an anti-masker in my house. It might seem fussy to say this when going home involves plane travel but I have been home twice since March and can confirm that everyone follows rules in the airport and on the plane. Both times I have been down to my jocks on my parents front door step and instantly thrown my clothes in the wash, then shower before I touch anyone. When i've been with them I don't leave the house and I have even lied to my mates at home as I wouldn't feel comfortable meeting them.
 
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