COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Manchester1894 said:
What are we... 9 months into the pandemic now?! Flown by. I can't say it's been enjoyable by any stretch, but as a life experience it's certainly interesting and different to what we've all been used to. I'm in a mindset to sit pretty until April and hope this turns around.
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Ease off in April, the summer will reduce the deaths, then we'll be having the same conversation here next december, if this is going to be as depressingly predictable as I imagine.
 
The Guardian saying that the UK will be the first Western country to approve a vaccine (Pfizer) and it could be as soon as tomorrow.

What a great day it will be when it is approved and vaccinations start almost immediately.
 
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roubaixtuesday said:
Given that excess deaths have been above officially COVID deaths, she'd probably be right.
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Maybe, but we also know that due to the priority placed on covid rather than other life threatening issues this has resulted in a large proportion of those excess deaths. and also lets just say Kaz is a glass half empty kind of girl when it comes to issues arround covid.
 
Blue Hefner said:
The SNP abstained as they view it as an English matter so didn’t want to get involved and Labour also abstained as they don’t think the restrictions go far enough(as per SAGE) so didn’t want to vote ‘for’ them but couldn’t vote against them as that would leave the country with no restrictions whatsoever
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Our politicians of all parties are a bunch of mealy-mouthed cunts, in the 50-odd years that I've been taking notice of politics I've never seen such a talentless, gutless crew as the current set of MPs.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Really? Care to share a source for that?
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i believe live its been widely reported this may be the case. The bbc interviewed a woman on friday who had missed her cancer treatment for mths. i know of someone who wasnt getting the treatment they should be. Throw in no face to face GP appointments and it isnt that hard to work out that the priority given to covid has resulted in some others sadly losing out and passing away before they would have.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
i believe live its been widely reported this may be the case. The bbc interviewed a woman on friday who had missed her cancer treatment for mths. i know of someone who wasnt getting the treatment they should be. Throw in no face to face GP appointments and it isnt that hard to work out that the priority given to covid has resulted in some others sadly losing out and passing away before they would have.
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As far as I know there's no hard data to support this claim - yet.

Interested to see where this goes - I completely agree it's a likely. I'd guess it might become visible later as things like cancer diagnoses and screening misses impact.

Another good reason to suppress the virus.
 
Blue Hefner said:
What were Labour expected to do?
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What does sitting on their hands doing nothing achieve? If they believe the country needs restrictions of some sort then vote for restrictions if the only alternative is none at all. If they feel strongly opposed to the restrictions then vote against. Meanwhile the government sets out restrictions but as soon as anyone moans about them Johnson shits himself and starts back-tracking.
 
Labour’s position is that the tier restrictions don’t go far enough.

They vote against and we get nothing, no restrictions at all. That would be an odd thing to do wouldn’t it considering they don’t think tier restrictions go far enough? It would humiliate the PM yes, but god forbid they get accused of playing politics. The Tory rebellion was never going to be big enough on its own, it needed Labour voting against as well.

They vote for the tier restrictions and they then can’t criticise them. Why would they do that?

Abstaining prevented no restrictions and a free for all coming into place, but allows them a more sound base to criticise the government’s tier restrictions.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
Tameside is the charnel house capital of the UK.
www.theguardian.com

Tameside records highest proportion of Covid deaths in UK

Public health official puts high figure down to early testing but local MP questions hospital infection controls
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Terribly, terribly sad.
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As a matter of fact I can tell you there were patients with Covid in non Covid wards in Tameside Hospitals in September. I picked my pal up from his shift early in that month and he was fuming, the cases had multiplied rapidly and patients were being placed in any available bed, he'd had Covid himself in March, he got mild symptoms but his wife became very ill but fortunately got better. His protection then as now was a standard issue mask, nothing medically specialised, just bog standard issue. He worked in Patient transfer and now empties the medical bins, he's transported quite a lot of Covid patients and seen some of them die quite quickly. There is a lot of anxiety amongst his colleagues, not a great situation to be in.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
Labour’s position is that the tier restrictions don’t go far enough.

They vote against and we get nothing, no restrictions at all. That would be an odd thing to do wouldn’t it considering they don’t think tier restrictions go far enough? It would humiliate the PM yes, but god forbid they get accused of playing politics. The Tory rebellion was never going to be big enough on its own, it needed Labour voting against as well.

They vote for the tier restrictions and they then can’t criticise them. Why would they do that?

Abstaining prevented no restrictions and a free for all coming into place, but allows them a more sound base to criticise the government’s tier restrictions.
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This is exactly the reason there should be an all party committee looking & deciding things rather than BJ and a couple of his mates.
 
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