Another new Brexit thread

[blueinsa]

If tariffs change? 20 business days to go and you don't know (haven't looked to see?) if your supplies would be subject to tariffs? Have you checked your contract to see who would pay tariffs on goods where the tariffs were applied after the contract was signed?

Did you not read the bit where I said my prices are fixed for 12 months with my distributor? If tarrifs are applied then my distributor will pay. If he feels he has to pass them on then we will have that discussion. If us sellers do pay more then those charges will be passed on to the customer as always.

Anything else you need clarification on Vic?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

and of course if this is terror inspired we are about to turn our backs on all the systems we have to share intelligence and co-ordinate Police actions - yay hay

Trier: Five die as car ploughs through Germany pedestrian zone

Officials say there is no sign the incident in Trier, Germany, was politically motivated.

www.bbc.co.uk

Presumably the same systems that prevent this happening in Germany at present?

 

[blueinsa]

Does any single ingredient of what you sell ... start in the EU? Any part of the whole? because if it does .... youre f@cked.

Lol

 

[bluethrunthru]

Presumably the same systems that prevent this happening in Germany at present?

If it is the work of a cell some of whom decamp to here Germany is under no obligation to divulge that. If we have suspicions about someone then Euopol will be entitled to let the call go to voicemail........

And to turn your smart arsed comment around our world class security services when left to their own devices did a smashing job on Salman Abedi eh?

None of this concerns you?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

If it is the work of a cell some of whom decamp to here Germany is under no obligation to divulge that. If we have suspicions about someone then Euopol will be entitled to let the call go to voicemail........

And to turn your smart arsed comment around our world class security services when left to their own devices did a smashing job on Salman Abedi eh?

None of this concerns you?

You know nothing about this.Intelligence relationships are entirely independent from all the EU/Brexit nonsense. Salman Abedi is a neat example also of a nutter that our EU membership made no difference to in the slightest.

 

[blueinsa]

You know nothing about this.Intelligence relationships are entirely independent from all the EU/Brexit nonsense. Salman Abedi is a neat example also of a nutter that our EU membership made no difference to in the slightest.

Imagine a meeting of the 5 eyes opening with talk of who trades with who and one saying sorry, we can't share anything this week because we have an issue over fish or folding bikes or designer clothes.........

No.....me neither.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Imagine a meeting of the 5 eyes opening with talk of who trades with who and one saying sorry, we can't share anything this week because we have an issue over fish or folding bikes or designer clothes.........

No.....me neither.

Exactly. Our intelligence relationships have actually been compromised by EU expansion and willingness to share with the former Soviet Blok nations. Personally I think that's a bit paranoid of the US, but as our largest and most important intel sharing partner it probably matters. The Europol database is probably handy in terms of organised crime, but not that useful in keeping tabs on who is transiting the near 1000 mile porous border between Turkey and Syria, or who hops in a boat to cross the Med. EU security agencies are at best engaged in a sort of hopeful game of Jihadist whack-a-mole.

 

[bluethrunthru]

You know nothing about this.Intelligence relationships are entirely independent from all the EU/Brexit nonsense. Salman Abedi is a neat example also of a nutter that our EU membership made no difference to in the slightest.

so me and the Police have to bow to your larger sarcasm based knowledge of policing and security?

Police warn of ‘major operational impact’ after Brexit

Key information systems will be lost even if a security deal is struck before 31 December, National Crime Agency says

www.independent.co.uk

 

[BobKowalski]

Negotiations are going exactly how i thought they always would....right to the last minute.

Success/failure of the UK's decision to leave the EU will be judged in the coming years when any deal/no deal scenario can be seen working/not working and not now because some don't like us leaving regardless.

My business is fine as things stand. I supply solely to the UK market. If tariffs on goods change coming in from Germany change then they change for everyone in our sector. Our prices with our distributor are fixed for 12 months in advance and as of this week, whilst the outcome of talks is still an unknown, they are not worried re supply or future pricing but as with everything in business, if changes are needed then changes will happen. I fear the likes of Amazon selling stock at prices vastly under UK RRP than I do brexit and they are far more of a threat to me and many other sellers in the UK imo.

The deal was done weeks ago. The only ’last minute’ decision is whether Johnson is going to take the deal or not. To be more precise it’s whether Johnson is going to piss off the ERG mob or not.

It‘s coin flip either way.

 

[blueinsa]

The deal was done weeks ago. The only ’last minute’ decision is whether Johnson is going to take the deal or not. To be more precise it’s whether Johnson is going to piss off the ERG mob or not.

It‘s coin flip either way.

Possibly. Or the EU blink.

Of course you won't, can't and never will admit to that but I'd wager it's very much in play right now.

Both sides will blink, both will move, both will claim victory, brexit voters will say they are happy, remain voters will claim it's a disaster and a climbdown and the debate will go on and on and on.....

 

[bluethrunthru]

You know nothing about this.Intelligence relationships are entirely independent from all the EU/Brexit nonsense. Salman Abedi is a neat example also of a nutter that our EU membership made no difference to in the slightest.

so me and the Police have to bow to your larger sarcasm based knowledge of policing and security?

Police warn of ‘major operational impact’ after Brexit

Key information systems will be lost even if a security deal is struck before 31 December, National Crime Agency says

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

so me and the Police have to bow to your larger sarcasm based knowledge of policing and security?

Police warn of ‘major operational impact’ after Brexit

Key information systems will be lost even if a security deal is struck before 31 December, National Crime Agency says

www.independent.co.uk

Basically yes. You chose two poor examples that were entirely un-prevented from happening by the EU/Europol. You then go on to confuse the police with our intelligence and broader security services, and then cite an 'Independent' article that concentrates on one database. Within that article you then have an explanation that it's speed rather than level of access to one specific database that is compromised and the executive (PM /home Sec) in the same article stating it won't be a problem. I think you should consider intel and security in terms of layers (like an onion) rather than a chain which can fail on one link.

 

[BobKowalski]

Possibly. Or the EU blink.

Of course you won't, can't and never will admit to that but I'd wager it's very much in play right now.

Both sides will blink, both will move, both will claim victory, brexit voters will say they are happy, remain voters will claim it's a disaster and a climbdown and the debate will go on and on and on.....

The Deal is done. 800 pages and a 1,000 more in attachments. The only thing left is Johnson to say yay now or yay next year.

Brexiteers will love the deal for as long as they loved the Withdrawal Agreement. Which is about the time it takes them to read it and then understand it.

 

[ganganvince]

 

[blueinsa]

The Deal is done. 800 pages and a 1,000 more in attachments. The only thing left is Johnson to say yay now or yay next year.

Brexiteers will love the deal for as long as they loved the Withdrawal Agreement. Which is about the time it takes them to read it and then understand it.

It's done apart from a few key points Bob.

We will see who and how they blink over them.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

If ever there were a brexit issue that love (money) would find a way round, then this is it! Seriously, I'm sure the PL clubs have seen this coming and it will be interesting to see how they intend to deal with it. Also worth the caveat that this tweet is from the man who is still expecting us to have a 2 year ban from CAS.

 

[Ric]

If ever there were a brexit issue that love (money) would find a way round, then this is it! Seriously, I'm sure the PL clubs have seen this coming and it will be interesting to see how they intend to deal with it. Also worth the caveat that this tweet is from the man who is still expecting us to have a 2 year ban from CAS.

That’s not Delaney speculating. It’s an actual statement from the FA, Premier League and EFL.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

That’s not Delaney speculating. It’s an actual statement from the FA, Premier League and EFL.

Yes indeed I just thought it was worth having a pop at delaney as amateur of course. He's not my fave journo.

 

[west didsblue]

If I had to speculate, the deal was done exactly a month ago and that has prompted the 15% rise in the stock market during November. It’s all theatre now and Johnson is just waiting for the stage managed EU concession on fish, so that at the very last moment he will triumphantly announce his great victory and will basque in the glory of getting one over on the EU, just for as long as it takes for someone to actually read the deal and burst his balloon because of the UK concessions on LPF and governance. Of course I could be wrong but I would expect a lot more volatility in the markets if there was significant doubt about the outcome.

As for the actual outcome, my guess is that it won’t be far short of BRINO with extra bureaucracy which is why the markets like it. Again it’s just my opinion and I could be totally wrong.

 

[mcfc1632]

Possibly. Or the EU blink.

Of course you won't, can't and never will admit to that but I'd wager it's very much in play right now.

Both sides will blink, both will move, both will claim victory, brexit voters will say they are happy, remain voters will claim it's a disaster and a climbdown and the debate will go on and on and on.....

Of course it was always true - no matter how inconvenient - that:

"We will not see movement from the EU unless and until they are faced with the prospect of a viable walk-away option – and the political will to use it”

Interestingly, it seems Macron also realises this simple fact:

Nervy EU states wary of Brexit concessions by Michel Barnier | Brexit | The Guardian