Celtic thread 2020/21

Cellarite said:
That’s a really strange post considering that when I said he was under pressure 30 days ago, you accused me of going “all Sevco press”, said that rather than brought pressure on him the results had given him food for thought regarding younger players and bet me that Stevie Mee would leave Glasgow before him.

Now you’re saying it was obvious to “every **** that isn’t the board or Lenny” that he had to go 6 weeks ago.

One of two things is happening here;

1) I called the situation correctly 4 weeks ago but you didn’t want to concede a fair point to a fan of another team so reacted badly

Or

2) You’re trying to save face now by saying it was obvious he had to go 6 weeks ago when you were actually vehemently supporting him just over 4 weeks ago.
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Couple of points.

I accused you of being all Sevco press over your fawning of Rangers fuck all to do with Lennon.

I have wanted a change since yet another disgraceful performance in the derby. As for reacting badly. Well you call it badly, but I call it defending my team. If people come on here and have a pop at City, people react. I react, and I always will.

People are saying, like you, you called it. You called what? The league isn't done yet and if we get the change it's game on. And if anybody wants to write us off now then good luck with that.

And for those who cite entitlement? What a load of shite. The anger is wholly down to our recent years stagnation and retreat from ambition as our CL lack of qualification shows. It's been a slow burn, hoping they would see that you need to keep moving forward. They haven't. The season has been a disaster. The manager cannot get a performance, isn't picking the right players, can't change games tactically. And every supporter wants their team.to win. When City won the league that day Aguero scored did you all think, well, let someone else have a go? Did you fuck. So, leave that one please, it's pish. We are in a tailspin and we need a pilot who can level us out then start climbing again.

News today us we haven't taken the steps to remove him so, in a few weeks I might concede the league, but not today, not today.
 
GunnerGer said:
You's have had a hard 8 weeks mate, think about our torturous 8 years!

I honestly think most of your support are more bothered about 10 in a row than most of our fans are about stopping it. You guys seem utterly obsessed, and are rioting through a Pandemic at the thought of not getting it.

I honestly can't remember that feeling when we won 9 in a row. In fact I was at the beam back at Ibrox on the final game when the team played at Tannadice & waited back a couple of hours to applaud the team.

The only difference I can think off is where we have come from, how low we were. Its like you wanted / expected us to die, or certainly not to come back to any competitive level, and are angry at that side of it. Or is that you guys get off on the Sevco & New Club stuff, and are in fear / rage at the new club winning a title after 8 years?
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Couple of points for you too.

1. We have worldwide an estimated 3m fans. A couple if dozen young neds ain't us rioting. Get a but of perspective.

2. It's not about the last 8 weeks, rather last three years waiting for you to catch up. I've said it many times. You wouldn't stop us, we woukd derail ourselves by a lack if ambition and do8ng fuck all to qualify for the CL and put our resources in an unassailable position.

3. I have lived through your 9 The early 90's. Murray taunting us with that tenner he stole off the queen. So, I don't want to return to that. Especially when it's self inflicted through cowardice in our board. You have improved with loans and spending money you don't generate. How you get away with that is another discussion. But it still was less than we had to go ahead, we didn't. It's not a surprise to me, because that's the way we roll.

The next few days will.define us for years, not just the 10. That's why we are going mental.

When you were going for the 10 it was fucking mental.then too. Or have you forgotten that? I haven't.
 
Magicpole said:
Couple of points.

I accused you of being all Sevco press over your fawning of Rangers fuck all to do with Lennon.

I have wanted a change since yet another disgraceful performance in the derby. As for reacting badly. Well you call it badly, but I call it defending my team. If people come on here and have a pop at City, people react. I react, and I always will.

People are saying, like you, you called it. You called what? The league isn't done yet and if we get the change it's game on. And if anybody wants to write us off now then good luck with that.

And for those who cite entitlement? What a load of shite. The anger is wholly down to our recent years stagnation and retreat from ambition as our CL lack of qualification shows. It's been a slow burn, hoping they would see that you need to keep moving forward. They haven't. The season has been a disaster. The manager cannot get a performance, isn't picking the right players, can't change games tactically. And every supporter wants their team.to win. When City won the league that day Aguero scored did you all think, well, let someone else have a go? Did you fuck. So, leave that one please, it's pish. We are in a tailspin and we need a pilot who can level us out then start climbing again.

News today us we haven't taken the steps to remove him so, in a few weeks I might concede the league, but not today, not today.
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This blatantly isn’t true.
 
Magicpole said:
Couple of points for you too.

1. We have worldwide an estimated 3m fans. A couple if dozen young neds ain't us rioting. Get a but of perspective.

2. It's not about the last 8 weeks, rather last three years waiting for you to catch up. I've said it many times. You wouldn't stop us, we woukd derail ourselves by a lack if ambition and do8ng fuck all to qualify for the CL and put our resources in an unassailable position.

3. I have lived through your 9 The early 90's. Murray taunting us with that tenner he stole off the queen. So, I don't want to return to that. Especially when it's self inflicted through cowardice in our board. You have improved with loans and spending money you don't generate. How you get away with that is another discussion. But it still was less than we had to go ahead, we didn't. It's not a surprise to me, because that's the way we roll.

The next few days will.define us for years, not just the 10. That's why we are going mental.

When you were going for the 10 it was fucking mental.then too. Or have you forgotten that? I haven't.
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I'll address you points first before asking some other questions.

1. C'mon mate, if that was us you'd be shouting from the rooftops how scummy we were, how you guys are the GFITY & we are the devils spawn. And from the pics & videos i seen, there were certainly more than a couple dozen young neds, & they were certainly not all young like i would have expected, & Jim Duffy who was there informed his colleagues the same. Like our support, your support has a section of neds/ undesirables that let the club down. Only problem is that you lot try to pretend they don't exist. In fact, Lennon & the club pander to them from what i hear.

2. I get your point in general, but you've still won what, the last 12 domestic trophies? We were always going to get better, (we couldn't get much worse to be honest). I understand the shit CL performances & frustrations that come with that, but i still think this level of outrage is a bit much.

3. Not sure about your Murray comment? Are you implying something about the EBT's? Because 9 in a row was achieved in '97, & i'm sure the EBT's didnt start until after that. Whatever. Anyway, like i said, we were always going to improve from our low standing, we were always going to frontload investment until we were competitive, & that's exactly what's happened. If it was a real concern, we could have sold Morelos which would just about have balanced the books. But we held out for our valuation which never came.

I agree to an extent that the next few days might define things for years, & brings me round to my next point i was wanting to ask you.

You are right not to concede the league, feckin right you's shoudn't, only a madman would when the gap can be cut to 5 points, & likewise, i certainly aint going to say it's won from our perspective until it's mathematically over, so don't worry about that.

However, if things don't go your way, are you worried about the scales tipping slightly in the other direction? From what i can see,

Edouard, Ntcham, Ajer & Christie's contracts all end in 2022, & are any likely to extend? Would it be fair to say that's your best defender, midfielder & striker?
Are you going to get what you would expect to get in fees after a Covid hit year in the financials & 1 year left on their contracts?

Brown & Griffiths are up at the end of this season & both look close to done.

Elyounoussi, Laxalt & Duffy are all just on loan.

That's a lot of upheavel for 1 window. Wouldn't be so daunting if the recruitment was good, but it's been far from that the last few years.
 
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Cellarite said:
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This blatantly isn’t true.
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Most of those points I stand by, however I am not an Oracle and do get things wrong from time to time. I never ever said Lenny was the man.
GunnerGer said:
I'll address you points first before asking some other questions.

1. C'mon mate, if that was us you'd be shouting from the rooftops how scummy we were, how you guys are the GFITY & we are the devils spawn. And from the pics & videos i seen, there were certainly more than a couple dozen young neds, & they were certainly not all young like i would have expected, & Jim Duffy who was there informed his colleagues the same. Like our support, your support has a section of neds/ undesirables that let the club down. Only problem is that you lot try to pretend they don't exist. In fact, Lennon & the club pander to them from what i hear.

2. I get your point in general, but you've still won what, the last 12 domestic trophies? We were always going to get better, (we couldn't get much worse to be honest). I understand the shit CL performances & frustrations that come with that, but i still think this level of outrage is a bit much.

3. Not sure about your Murray comment? Are you implying something about the EBT's? Because 9 in a row was achieved in '97, & i'm sure the EBT's didnt start until after that. Whatever. Anyway, like i said, we were always going to improve from our low standing, we were always going to frontload investment until we were competitive, & that's exactly what's happened. If it was a real concern, we could have sold Morelos which would just about have balanced the books. But we held out for our valuation which never came.

I agree to an extent that the next few days might define things for years, & brings me round to my next point i was wanting to ask you.

You are right not to concede the league, feckin right you's shoudn't, only a madman would when the gap can be cut to 5 points, & likewise, i certainly aint going to say it's won from our perspective until it's mathematically over, so don't worry about that.

However, if things don't go your way, are you worried about the scales tipping slightly in the other direction? From what i can see,

Edouard, Ntcham, Ajer & Christie's contracts all end in 2022, & are any likely to extend? Would it be fair to say that's your best defender, midfielder & striker?
Are you going to get what you would expect to get in fees after a Covid hit year in the financials & 1 year left on their contracts?

Brown & Griffiths are up at the end of this season & both look close to done.

Elyounoussi, Laxalt & Duffy are all just on loan.

That's a lot of upheavel for 1 window. Wouldn't be so daunting if the recruitment was good, but it's been far from that the last few years.
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Gunner will get back to you on this. Some interesting points, don't have time tonight. I'm sticking pins into my Lawell effigy and summoning up demons to sort Desmond out too.
 
Magicpole said:
Most of those points I stand by, however I am not an Oracle and do get things wrong from time to time. I never ever said Lenny was the man.

Gunner will get back to you on this. Some interesting points, don't have time tonight. I'm sticking pins into my Lawell effigy and summoning up demons to sort Desmond out too.
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What on earth are you on about?

My post contained eleven words. “Four games without a win now. Lennon under pressure soon, surely.”

You first of all told me not to get “all Sevco press”.

When I pulled you on it after you made the quickest U turn the forum has ever seen, your reply was “I accused you of being all Sevco press over your fawning of Rangers fuck all to do with Celtic”.

You are completely wrong in that I never mentioned Rangers but still say you stand by many of your points.
 
Cellarite said:
What on earth are you on about?

My post contained eleven words. “Four games without a win now. Lennon under pressure soon, surely.”

You first of all told me not to get “all Sevco press”.

When I pulled you on it after you made the quickest U turn the forum has ever seen, your reply was “I accused you of being all Sevco press over your fawning of Rangers fuck all to do with Celtic”.

You are completely wrong in that I never mentioned Rangers but still say you stand by many of your points.
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"The biggest U turn this forum has ever seen." Your use of hyperbole is astounding.

You were right about pressure though, and it's worse now. Like all fans, we defend attacks. Unlike our actual defence, but we do. Are we guilty of taking that defence too far whilst wishing things change, of course. My point about the Sevco press was every year it's the same Rangers are coming. They are coming this year, but a bit too early for the cum face is my point.
 
bennyboy said:
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We still laugh at the clever funny stuff. That's a good one. A week is a long time in politics and even more in football. You have to roll with the blows and hope we turn it around. I'm clinging to the, he who laughs last, saying. It ain't over yet. We have fuck all wiggle room, but, we've been there before and came out fighting. I just hope we can do it again. If we don't we have nobody to blame but our board. Rangers greatest asset.
 
Magicpole said:
We still laugh at the clever funny stuff. That's a good one. A week is a long time in politics and even more in football. You have to roll with the blows and hope we turn it around. I'm clinging to the, he who laughs last, saying. It ain't over yet. We have fuck all wiggle room, but, we've been there before and came out fighting. I just hope we can do it again. If we don't we have nobody to blame but our board. Rangers greatest asset.
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It has been that all my days apart from the Fergus days.
Even then there was a minority who didn't like him.
 
Magicpole said:
"The biggest U turn this forum has ever seen." Your use of hyperbole is astounding.

You were right about pressure though, and it's worse now. Like all fans, we defend attacks. Unlike our actual defence, but we do. Are we guilty of taking that defence too far whilst wishing things change, of course. My point about the Sevco press was every year it's the same Rangers are coming. They are coming this year, but a bit too early for the cum face is my point.
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I’ve not even got a semi on for them never mind cum face.
 
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