Another new Brexit thread

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gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think this pisses me off more than anything. Those confidently predicting the ‘easiest deal in history’ are the same cunts moaning when the EU try to lowball us. Anyone with a brain who wasn’t consumed with bile for the EU could see we weren’t holding many cards if we voted to leave.

How could anyone sensibly believe that we were going to be in the driving seat? Really?
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They didn’t. They lied.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think this pisses me off more than anything. Those confidently predicting the ‘easiest deal in history’ are the same cunts moaning when the EU try to lowball us. Anyone with a brain who wasn’t consumed with bile for the EU could see we weren’t holding many cards if we voted to leave.

How could anyone sensibly believe that we were going to be in the driving seat? Really?
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All we ever had was the scorched earth policy of walking away and the political will to be daft enough to use it (though some might call it blackmail).

How could anybody think this was going to be a good negotiating stance? (That's the UK on the right.)

 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think this pisses me off more than anything. Those confidently predicting the ‘easiest deal in history’ are the same cunts moaning when the EU try to lowball us. Anyone with a brain who wasn’t consumed with bile for the EU could see we weren’t holding many cards if we voted to leave.

How could anyone sensibly believe that we were going to be in the driving seat? Really?
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Some genuinely believed we were. Not everyone is as mendacious as Gove. Some people are just thick.
 
Should have kicked the can down the road six months ago. It’s asking so much of businesses to cope with both covid and brexit and the uncertainty in both.
 
mat said:
I'd go with your prediction that Boris will save the day to be fair.
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The only thing he is interested in is saving his face.... If he isn't careful Von Der Leyen will stare him down over the table and if he doesn't give she gets up and walks out immediately telling the press that Johnson couldn't negotiate a deal on a decent used Skoda then sit back watch him thrash about, see the chaos in January then wait for them to get shot of the fat lad and reopen negotiations with a newly installed adult.
 
meltonblue said:
Should have kicked the can down the road six months ago. It’s asking so much of businesses to cope with both covid and brexit and the uncertainty in both.
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They had the perfect opportunity/excuse with Covid. The fact they didn’t take that suggests they’re determined to force this through regardless of the consequences.
 
Ric said:
They had the perfect opportunity/excuse with Covid. The fact they didn’t take that suggests they’re determined to force this through regardless of the consequences.
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Its one of the few things that anyone on either side of the debate should be aligned on for me. We’re effectively all in disaster recovery mode, the last thing you do is add in additional changes when you don’t have to.
 
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Vic said:
I might have checked but the search facility has gone to pot, so I'll take your word for it that you were only commenting on Mogg's optimistic view that it might take 50 years to see the benefit of Brexit (or 50 minutes in his self-interested case). Most economists (and the Government if we could see their own forecasts, still supressed) think we'll never see a financial benefit.
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Bit begrudging that

I think that you meant something along the lines of.....


"Yep - fair play - I did indeed post in error and accept that I should not have stated that you said something that you did not....

Sorry about that mate..."
 
I wonder if the half witted fucks we have in government have realised yet that no deal opens the door for a Socialist state. I doubt it because they will be seeing pound signs in there eyes and nothing clouds judgement more than something that looks like an easy profit.

Bless em.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Bit begrudging that

I think that you meant something along the lines of.....


"Yep - fair play - I did indeed post in error and accept that I should not have stated that you said something that you did not....

Sorry about that mate..."
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You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
 
journolud said:
Have we really presented a viable walk away option... though? A more realistic reading would be that both sides have offered compromise, despite which we are still faced with a potential no deal. With the greatest respect I think you are interpreting the facts to fit your long held narrative rather than being objective
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I respectfully suggest that you have that wrong in a number of ways

You say yourself that the EU are compromising - this after years of utter clarity in their statements that they will not - and also years of posters on here repeating that

And now - as you say yourself - they are compromising. so.....

Why would that be - if they have no need to?

Just what could they be seeing as an unpalatable alternative that makes them instead offer up compromises?

Just think it through with objectivity and the answer will be obvious I suggest
 
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