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mosssideblue said:
As I said earlier, whether the tiers are liked or not is irrelevant, if we dont stick to them, we invite unnecessary risk and with Vaccines around the corner, is it worth it?
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Yet no one has an issue if he travels to work 2 miles away into a tier 2 area... or goes to the supermarket in a tier 2 area... the tiers are bollocks.
 
I just sent some flowers via interflora and their data base insisted on adding to the address that Manchester is in Lancashire. Perhaps Boris has secretly hacked it so if he releases GM from the restrictions nothing will change unless Lancashire is freed up too.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Lovely to have a coffee sat inside a Tier 2 Southport Costa this morning.

Its fucking barmy this system.
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Must admit, im certainly appreciating the little things like that more since all this kicked off. Had a bacon barm from a local butchers this morning with a coffee and it felt so nice to just go and do that before a walk, even though it was ridiculously simple.
 
I agree it is barmy and unfair. But I cannot agree that means it is a good idea to ignore it.

That more or less makes the ones who refuse to accept the rules on a par with the ones who invented them.

Both are in part responsible for the consequences that will inevitably follow - hopefully NOT to a member of their family. But all too assuredly and tragically to a member of someone else's.
 
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I agree it is barmy and unfair. But I cannot agree that means it is a good idea to ignore it.

That more or less makes the ones who refuse to accept the rules on a par with the ones who invented them.

Both are in part responsible for the consequences that will inevitably follow - hopefully NOT to a member of their family. But all too assuredly and tragically to a member of someone else's.
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You're correct,i wasn't suggesting different.

My point was,rather than pissing about with a Tier system,we should all be under the same restrictions,rather than me travelling an hour up the road and being under different rules.
 
Wales data up first today - and sadly still going backwards.

Their circuit breaker really has not worked.

Details with 3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v today

Deaths 24 :-

Cases 1645: - shows their measures just did not work,

I think 1645 is one of the highest numbers they have ever had. From 17.3 K tests.



20d - 933c - 1080p - 72v

28d - 1016c - 1149p - 68v

29d - 1445c - 1134p - 69v

24d - 1645c - 1187p - 71v today
 
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Scotland though much better news:

Deaths 22 - well down. Cases 777 at 4.5% positive. Patients 945 (down 20 in day) and ventilated beds 64 (down 1)
 
Scotland 3wks v 2 wks v last wk v TODAY

36d - 1118c - 1198p - 92v

37d - 897c - 1193p - 100v

44d - 788c - 1077p - 77v

22d - 777c - 945p - 64v TODAY

This looks a very hopeful downward track.

Scotland and NW England seem to have had a very similar downward course over the past 3 months despite being in two different lockdown regimes.

N Ireland and Wales both had similar circuit breakers and whilst both are now moving up Wales is worse than before the circuit breaker and N Ireland still better.

I hope experts are assessing how and why these different versions of measures worked or did not work as they havenot just blindly doing 'their' thing.
 
The number of new cases in the Netherlands just doesn't seem to be dropping any further. Managed to get down to 4,000 on the 1st of December, but they're already back up to 6,500 today.
 
Sadly the England hospital deaths are worse than the other two nations with deaths actually up not down on last week today. From 289 to 315. With NW up week to week too from 52 to 55.

This is a little disappointing. But not yet a disaster.
 
England hospital other data: Remember this is Friday data NOT weekend. That comes tomorrow and Monday and will be underreported.


Deaths: Midlands 83 NE & Yorks 66 London 33 East 28 SW 27 SE 23

It is deaths down south that are driving the increases. The North and Midlands whilst still high are slowly falling.

Barking, Leicester, North Lincs and Pennine had the most deaths.

Ages 1 aged 20- 39, 16 aged 40 - 59, 113 aged 60 - 79 and 185 aged 80 +
 
England hospital deaths v NW total v NW % of UK 3 wks v 2wks v last wk v TODAY

304 / 89 NW / 29%

316 / 75 NW / 24%

289 / 52 NW / 18%

315 / 55 NW / 17% TODAY

So even though NW deaths up 3 the % of total is down.
 
More at half time or after the game.

36 of the England hospital deaths were over 2 weeks ago so a monthly catch up audit today by looks of it. Some months old. So that mitigates the news.
 
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inchy14 said:
Yet no one has an issue if he travels to work 2 miles away into a tier 2 area... or goes to the supermarket in a tier 2 area... the tiers are bollocks.
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Totally! I don't like reading the comments judging peoples actions. Let's be honest, the vast majority of people here ( myself included ) have shown unbelievable patience with all of this. I am not downplaying covid, it is bad for certain people mainly the old and people with respiratory conditions, but to the overwhelming majority it akin to a bad cold. We've had our lives pushed and pulled all over the place and got on with it, many have suffered financially, mentally and physically, How about the judgy people actually give us credit instead of trying to shame people.
 
Whilst that is down 759 on yesterday the regional scoreboard shows the NW as the only region that we watch daily to increase. And slip behind all but London.

London 2376 - down from 2823

Midlands 1311 - down from 1401

NE 586 - down from 698

Yorkshire - 1116 - down from 1360.

But North West is 1636 - UP from 1374.
 
GM shared fairly equitably in the NW rise. With 759 cases - up 127 from yesterday. That is from the 262 the NW increased by today and so the GM % of the NW stayed at about 46%.

But the GM and NW % against the the rest of England and the UK has risen a little with its cases rising whilst the national and other major regional totals fell.

But this is one day and by small margins. Nothing likely to be more than just fluctuations of the testing.

It needs to become a pattern to get concerned.
 
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GM highlights. 8 boroughs under 100. 8 boroughs rise, two fall but by tiny numbers.

Biggest change was in Manchester which had its highest number in 10 days. And alone was one third of the day to day increase.

Many Weekly Pop scores changed very little or stalled. The GM data is starting to appear to be plateauing at this kind of level. Hopefully that is not a sign of the loss of the staunching of infections after the ending of the lockdown (though it seems a little early to expect to see that impact).

We need to watch the data carefully over the next few days.

Let us hope today is not the day we look back on as when we began the track towards a new year third wave. Right now we cannot argue that. So fingers crossed.
 
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