Lionel Messi | Joins Inter Miami (pg4111)

[the plasterer]

He has just 2 goals from open play in his last 17 matches. The decline is real.

Think it’s more to do with the pile of crap he’s playing with

 

[FCBarca]

Think it’s more to do with the pile of crap he’s playing with

I don't think it's the players per se but definitely the combination of largely youth (Few veteran leaders) and naive tactics from Koeman

But I do agree that a match like last night underscores the gap between sports project and near term competitiveness at the highest level which, for me, pushes that 60/40 exit percentage to 80/20

I can only see Laporta bridging a gap that large but I still foresee it as a mission impossible all things considered

 

[Burtonblue]

He has just 2 goals from open play in his last 17 matches. The decline is real.

....or the fact he doesn’t want to be there is real.
Just as I expected he is voting with his feet. You cannot keep players and expect their best if they don’t want to stay.

 

[City Raider]

A player of that quality’s form doesn’t just drop off a cliff edge. It’s motivation.

 

[FCBarca]

A player of that quality’s form doesn’t just drop off a cliff edge. It’s motivation.

I don't think it's a question of motivation, I see the same player in terms of moments of brilliance but his heart not being in it is definitely a likely factor. I see moments of great chemistry with teammates coupled with stretches where he looks disconnected from others and of course there is his expression on the pitch which lacks the joy you normally see

It's a first for me to see Messi like that which again makes me think one foot is decidedly out the door. Not sure it can be course corrected

 

[BillyShears]

Hard to see anything but a nasty divorce upcoming between Barca and Leo.

Much like Pep when he was at Bayern, if/when Messi leaves Barca there is only one destination for him. City.

 

[FCBarca]

Hard to see anything but a nasty divorce upcoming between Barca and Leo.

Much like Pep when he was at Bayern, if/when Messi leaves Barca there is only one destination for him. City.

I don't believe it will be nasty, not publicly anyway - even if Font wins. Messi would be looking to ensure his legacy is left intact

Fans can be fickle and Nunista media will be who they are irrespective. If Laporta wins and cannot convince, then zero chance it will end nasty

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

I don't think it's a question of motivation, I see the same player in terms of moments of brilliance but his heart not being in it is definitely a likely factor. I see moments of great chemistry with teammates coupled with stretches where he looks disconnected from others and of course there is his expression on the pitch which lacks the joy you normally see

It's a first for me to see Messi like that which again makes me think one foot is decidedly out the door. Not sure it can be course corrected

You just contradicted yourself in the first sentence.

 

[BillyShears]

I don't believe it will be nasty, not publicly anyway - even if Font wins. Messi would be looking to ensure his legacy is left intact

Fans can be fickle and Nunista media will be who they are irrespective. If Laporta wins and cannot convince, then zero chance it will end nasty

Messi's legacy transcends the entirety of Barcelona football club. He can piss on the doors of La Masia on the way out and he'll still be the greatest player to ever pull a football shirt on and the most important person in the history of your club (along with Cruyff). This mess isn't of his making and isn't his problem. The way he's been treated is shambolic at best and he has every right to fire shots at the whole damn institution.

 

[manimanc]

Let's face it koeman going to Barca is on a par with moyes going to the rags, won nothing as managers, yes koeman was a fantastic player but as a manager he hasn't quite cut it.
Messi is obviously not motivated by his tactics and isn't responding.

 

[inconnu]

After last few games I have to say that without Messi Barca is a better team.

 

[Sir Joe Aguero]

He has just 2 goals from open play in his last 17 matches. The decline is real.

Don’t know why people aren’t picking up on this more. Even if he wants to leave and has made his mind up, you’d think he’d still try his best for the club he loves. It’s not like he’s intentionally sabotaging them is it? Why can’t we accept he’s declining like someone who’s played 1000 games would at this age? Would be a huge mistaking putting all our eggs into this basket.

 

[BlueRain]

Don’t know why people aren’t picking up on this more. Even if he wants to leave and has made his mind up, you’d think he’d still try his best for the club he loves. It’s not like he’s intentionally sabotaging them is it? Why can’t we accept he’s declining like someone who’s played 1000 games would at this age? Would be a huge mistaking putting all our eggs into this basket.

I'm not sure why you think all our eggs are in the Messi basket? His transfer (or not) doesn't effect City at all

If he comes he comes... if not then fine

He will be a free transfer and as already been said many times his commercial value to the club / CFG far outweigh what his wages would be - even if we paid him £100m a year, so if anything we would make a profit from having Messi. There was a figure being floated around a few weeks ago that Messi generates around £300m a year for Barca...!

As for his performances of late - he's only human after all, and this must be putting a lot of stress on him from both a professional perspective and also on his home life... He was promised that he could leave whenever he wanted (at the end of every season) and then Barca refused and went back on that promise, I would imagine that Messi was proper pissed at the club and broken promises like that are hard to forgive.

Personally (for what it's worth) I think he'll leave Barca or retire, I can't see any miracle (and it would take a miracle) that a skint and in turmoil Barca can turn things around quickly enough for Messi no matter who wins the elections

 

[M12Blue]

I don't think so.

It is Qataris being Qataris. They would want Messi if they ever could get him. Even if that means the rest of the team is made of amateur level players. This would be a disaster.

Mbappé won't renew in any case in my opinion. Neymar has more chance to stay.

I think you’re right, having Messi at PSG for the Qatari World Cup would be the aim. Can’t see it happening though

 

[M12Blue]

Think it’s more to do with the pile of crap he’s playing with

Agree, I think Spanish league going the way of Italy previously. RM and Barça in the shit, what’s left

 

[Sir Joe Aguero]

I'm not sure why you think all our eggs are in the Messi basket? His transfer (or not) doesn't effect City at all

If he comes he comes... if not then fine

He will be a free transfer and as already been said many times his commercial value to the club / CFG far outweigh what his wages would be - even if we paid him £100m a year, so if anything we would make a profit from having Messi. There was a figure being floated around a few weeks ago that Messi generates around £300m a year for Barca...!

As for his performances of late - he's only human after all, and this must be putting a lot of stress on him from both a professional perspective and also on his home life... He was promised that he could leave whenever he wanted (at the end of every season) and then Barca refused and went back on that promise, I would imagine that Messi was proper pissed at the club and broken promises like that are hard to forgive.

Personally (for what it's worth) I think he'll leave Barca or retire, I can't see any miracle (and it would take a miracle) that a skint and in turmoil Barca can turn things around quickly enough for Messi no matter who wins the elections

For Barca, yeah. No chance we get anyway near 300m a season in additional revenue from him.

 

[BlueRain]

For Barca, yeah. No chance we get anyway near 300m a season in additional revenue from him.

I've absolutely no idea how much extra revenue Messi would generate for a prem club but you can bet the money guys at CFG have run the numbers...

If Messi were to be paid say £100m a season (which is the figure we've all seen thrown around) then I would imagine we could easily generate that from just a handful of sponsors. Then there's the wow factor and the raising of the whole CFG brand and the ability to attact younger, top players with Messi in the squad?

 

[FCBarca]

You just contradicted yourself in the first sentence.

Not at all. Leo always wants to play so motivation is not an issue but his heart may not be 100% there and that may simply be subconscious

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Not at all. Leo always wants to play so motivation is not an issue but his heart may not be 100% there and that may simply be subconscious

You can’t be motivated if your heart isn’t in it? Your “heart not being in something” is about as close to a definition of being unmotivated as you can get. Maybe it’s a language thing.

 

[Bald fraud]

Mata asked about the possibility of Messi coming to us yesterday. His response was to basically shit himself saying he hopes he doesn’t come to us and if he does come to Manchester it’s to the rags. Then waffled on about some other shite about if you’re having a bad day just watch some Messi videos on you tube and it makes everything better. Then said something about not worrying about things he can’t control. So ye basically shitting it really think he may have heard a few whispers