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The Website is misbehaving but I have cobbled data together tht they had not updated but will post after the match now.

Headline - - GM up a little to 727 (55 increase from yesterday). But no huge issues A few places up - Manchester a fair bit and Trafford again surprisingly too. But others down.

And Manchester the only borough over 100.

Some other parts of the NW - including Merseyside and East Lancashire - had a little more of the rise today than GM did.

Indeed the GM percentage of the NW total fell from 43% to 41% today to show that. Lowest in several weeks.

Later.
 
At work this morning,loads making their way towards Liverpool and Chester on the piss - most groups carrying boxes of lager with them.

I suspect this sort of behaviour,along with the wankers marching through Manchester,and the 'Christmas farce to come,will only bring further misery.
 
artfuldodger said:
At my running club, I just happened to be running alongside a 35 year woman who works as a carer with the local authority learning disability team. She suddenly asked me if I’d take the vaccine, to which I replied absolutely. She said that she’d had a generic email from the council saying they wanted an idea of how many would take the vaccine and she’d said No. I asked why and she said ‘I’ve young children, so I don’t go anywhere’. I hope the council do more to explain that that really isn’t the issue.
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One issue with a lot of Councils is that that they are focussed on a purchasing / contracting model and are not really cut out for effective staff engagement and development.
 
BlueAnorak said:
If Sage was serious about that, schools would be closed 10 days before Christmas. They haven't been so they aren't.
Schools are the main transmission route and,Christmas will happen. Our two olds will have had their 1st jab by Christmas day and my grandchildren are being withdrawn from school on Wednesday as a precaution.
A Christmas get together is essential to our family well being this year considering how shit the last two have been.
Wife in hospital two years ago, then last Christmas wife became very ill and died on 7th Jan. The olds want to see their young at Christmas before they die and there is a good chance that could be 2021 as neither is that well. Less than 2 hours in a ventilated room with whem wearing PPE on the day too.
Anyone who thinks we shouldn't can f*ck off. The olds have made the choice. We are de-risking the situation as best we can.
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I don't agree schools shutting 10 days early would help. I don't understand the rest of your post
 
GM Scoreboard:

Cases 727 - up from 672 yesterday. 42% of NW total 1791.

3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v TODAY:- 994 v 827 v 759 v 727 TODAY. Still falling but much more slowly.


Pop Score is cases across whole pandemic v 100,000 people - rises daily but lower the better.

Weekly Pop is same measure across last 7 days only. Can rise or fall depending on if more cases or less occur today v the same day last week,

Either way Up is bad, down is good.


Manchester 173 – up from 133. Total cases 32, 781. Weekly 1009 Stays over the 1000 a week. Pop score up 31 to 5929. Will be in the 6000 club next week sadly. Weekly Pop down 1 to 182.

Oldham 80 - up from 51. Total cases 15, 469. Weekly 403. Pop score up 34 to 6524 Worst in GM today so moves up the list. But again Blackburn which rose by 35 and its pop score to 6889 – is now 365 above Oldham by more as worst in UK and soon to be the first to enter the 7000 club. Bad day here though so Oldham's Weekly Pop up 8 though to 170.

Wigan 78 – down from 100. Total cases 17, 565. Weekly 589. Pop score up 23 to 5344. Weekly Pop down 12 to 176. Wigan weekly pop below Manchester for first time in 3 months!!!

Bolton 75 up from 65. Total cases 15, 882. Weekly 422, Pop score up 26 to 5523. Weekly Pop down 5 to 146.

Salford 71 up from 49. Total cases 13, 985. Between them Manchester and Salford account for the rise today in the GM total today. The two uni cities. Possibly a factor. Weekly 369. Pop score up 27 to 5403. Weekly Pop stays at 142.

Rochdale 61 - down from 73. Total cases 13, 447. Weekly 472. Pop score up 27 to 6046. Weekly Pop down 5 to 212.

Bury 57 – down from 59. Last 3 days just 1 case apart. Total cases 10, 470. Weekly 410. Pop score up 30 to 5482. Stabilising nicely. Weekly Pop down 10 to 215.

Trafford 52 – up from 50. Two below it again today same as yesterday though this time more usual suspects! Total cases 9102. Weekly 258. Losing ground on the weekly cases record to new leader Tameside, Pop score up 22 to 3835. Weekly Pop up 8 to 109 – taking it nearer to Stockport than Tameside that has snatched this record from here too,

Stockport 47 – down from 59, Total cases 11, 109. Weekly 335 Within 100 of Trafford for weekly title for first time in many weeks but Tameside has blindsided both and taken it! Pop score up 16 to 3786 which increases lead over Trafford for best overall Pop back to 49. Weekly Pop down 4 to 114. Tameside leaving both Stockport and Trafford playing catch up.

Tameside 33 – stays best in GM at same score as yesterday and has now had 8 successive days with under 40 cases. Long time since any borough did that. Total cases 10, 845. Weekly 221. Best weekly cases in GM and lead over Trafford up to 37. Pop score up 14 to 4788. Lowest rise in GM again today. Weekly Pop up 1 to 97 As cases rose slightly week to week. The only sub 100 weekly pop in GM. And 12 ahead of long term leader Trafford.
 
Elsewhere today:

For Andyhinch

Cheshire East 94 - up from 71. Total cases 9722. This is the most cases since I started monitoring here for Andy 3 weeks ago. Pop score up 25 to 2531 - biggest rise in those 3 weeks. Weekly Pop Score up 9 to 111. Midway between Trafford (109) and Stockport (114) in the UK listings today.

Others in Kent

Dartford 89 cases - up from 77.Most since I started watching, Up 12. Total cases 3104. Pop score up 79 to 2758.

Medway 281 cases - up from 273. Pop score up 101. Biggest in UK today. To 3301.

Will be able to do the Weekly Pops for these two tomorrow but on present estimates we are talking about 400 - 450 or so for Dartford and 600 - 650 for Medway.

Way above anywhere in GM.
 
Healdplace said:
Test Positivity rate in Wales today 20.6% Recall the WHO rate for having an epidemic under control is 5% or below.

England yesterday was 5.6%. Wales is four times worse than England.

for context if anyone is planning to go there for Christmas.

My guess is the country will be in lockdown around 28 Dec - so be prepared not to be allowed out.
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What a joke that 2 week circuit breaker had turned out to be. To think some were crying out for England to do this. We have definitely handled this better than the rest of the UK over here.
 
Healdplace said:
I understand and it certainly was not hysterical nonsense as I was accused of offering. Closing borders is just impractical but advising self isolation coming back from a heavily infected area is common. So you could be not allowed out as I suggested. For the first week due back at work anyhow.
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Exactly right. You said that 'no-one would be allowed out' but now you concede that closing borders is impractical. Which is why your statement was nonsensical. You can't prevent people moving unless you close the border.

For example, you would have to explain to the Irish Government and EU why you were closing the Holyhead-Ireland ferry links (which carry 100s of trucks every day). This would be extremely difficult to justify at a time when the case rate in Anglesey is just 31/100K and the test positivity rate is just over 3%.
 
worsleyweb said:
Going to be a very quiet Xmas for me and quite proud of it. Everyone needs to do their bit.
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I dont know whether my family are untypical, but all the over 70s, which includes my parents, parents in law, sister in laws parents etc etc are spending it at home alone. And for some that really does mean alone as they are widowed.
 
Andrew Marr had some interesting interviews today.

We learned that the Oxford vaccine might well be approved by 31 December. And that they are planning small scale tests on combining it with the Russian Sputnik vaccine as they they think it might boost its success levels doing this.

Also that in future vaccines for the next pandemic could be created in weeks not months given the new tech used in the one already being used.

And that scientists have been very fearful of what happened in the US where the Thanksgiving weekend led quickly to a huge spike in cases and record deaths in the US and why they fear this Christmas will have the same impact in the UK come early January unless people really get the message about not travelling all over the UK and meeting multiple parts of their family.

Sadly we are not Germany who know this is necessary and so are just doing it and it is almost inevitable we will end up more like America.

And come January when everything is locked down possibly till Spring those who then complain about how it will cost them freedom and their jobs will be the same ones who are responsible for why it has to happen.

Oh and that Hancock has finally got the message we saw in here from Wigan months ago! And he has written to MPs explaining why the government do not now believe in relaxing the rules for less infected areas in hot zones that then just have the virus imported into them from the restricted areas by people who bend the rules and just go to the nearest unrestricted location.

Better late than never and it may be that it is more about justifying tier 3 for London next week whilst not unrestricting places in GM. But it is finally awakening to the reality of how this virus moves.
 
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