COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[BlueAnorak]

When did we start testing deaths for Covid?

Prior to March Covid deaths could have been going down as Flu/Pneumonia

Well yes, but they weren't more than average for the time of year. In fact they were slightly less.

 

[route46]

No idea. But it's got nothing to do with it. Viral load is about how much virus you ingest when in close proximity to an infected person. You don't get 2x the viral load if there are 2x as many infected people. You just have 2x the chance of bumping into such a person. (Unless you are a doctor or a nurse perhaps).

Again, why are you (seemingly) desperate to cling to the idea of many COVID-19 deaths very early in the year (or last year even)? It makes no sense and yet people seem to want to jump through all sorts of theoretical hoops to try to justify the idea. When the logical conclusion is to just accept it didn't happen. I am puzzled why you cling to it?

Surely the more people infected the more viral load u are likely to ingest??

 

[hgblue]

people cling to it because they had an extreme cough and was ill in early January as I did, it was going around then. Never had a cough like it

Now you may be right and probably are , it could be a cough , cold, flu or whatever.

however people cling on to it I guess because they want to convince themselves that they have had it , survived And now have immunity.

Not me. It seems someone died of Covid in December in France. He had not been abroad so had been infected by someone else. This means Covid was in France in early December. I’m just trying to understand how this can be. Did this virus fail to spread for some reason? Seems unlikely because it’s spread like wildfire everywhere else. I’m just interested to hear an explanation for this that makes sense.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Not me. It seems someone died of Covid in December in France. He had not been abroad so had been infected by someone else. This means Covid was in France in early December. I’m just trying to understand how this can be. Did this virus fail to spread for some reason? Seems unlikely because it’s spread like wildfire everywhere else. I’m just interested to hear an explanation for this that makes sense.

I'll go for contamination of samples as the most likely cause. COVID-19 cases would be through the roof in mid January in France if it their was a COVID-19 case in France in mid December.

 

[kaz7]

it’s Tuesday so it includes the ONS stats too so normally high

Those figures are hosp only,ONS are seperate

Britain's hospital death toll rose to 24,780 after 436 fatalities were reported in 24 hours.

England reported 366 new deaths, Scotland had 44 and Wales recorded 26 - taking its toll past 1,000 - as the UK entered the seventh week of its lockdown

 

[purplenose]

people cling to it because they had an extreme cough and was ill in early January as I did, it was going around then. Never had a cough like it

Now you may be right and probably are , it could be a cough , cold, flu or whatever.

however people cling on to it I guess because they want to convince themselves that they have had it , survived And now have immunity.

Its a strange one, I thought I may have had it early Feb, from Malaga maybe. At first it was dismissed by NHS111 but a few weeks ago I sawa doctor for a clinical trial who on hearing what had gone on said he would certainly not rule out the possibility that what I had was Covid.

I have not given immunity a second thought myself as I honestly don't know if I had it or not. Come the day we are tested for antibodies I would not be unduly surprised if it turned out I have had it, but nor will I if it is negative. I suppose I would be pleased to have had it and not had it badly should it prove you are then immune, who would'nt be.

I can say my views or thoughts on it having been around for a little bit longer in Europe than the powers that be currently admit are not influenced by my own illness whatever it was to any great extent, but the symptoms I had and the sequence of them certainly almost mirror that of Covid.

 

[route46]

Well yes, but they weren't more than average for the time of year. In fact they were slightly less.

Not me. It seems someone died of Covid in December in France. He had not been abroad so had been infected by someone else. This means Covid was in France in early December. I’m just trying to understand how this can be. Did this virus fail to spread for some reason? Seems unlikely because it’s spread like wildfire everywhere else. I’m just interested to hear an explanation for this that makes sense.

Don't think he died

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Those figures are hosp only,ONS are seperate

Britain's hospital death toll rose to 24,780 after 436 fatalities were reported in 24 hours.

England reported 366 new deaths, Scotland had 44 and Wales recorded 26 - taking its toll past 1,000 - as the UK entered the seventh week of its lockdown

yep I know but the ons stats are announced on a Tuesday I thought as well

 

[sir baconface]

Just watched a news report on this which concluded with 'Aer Lingus are reviewing their policies'.

The fact that we have to rely on an airline to safeguard the public might help explain why we've got one of the worst death tolls in the world.

Well it doesn’t look like anyone - Aer Lingus or anyone else - gives a flying fcuk on the evidence of that photo. WTF are they all doing? And why?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Surely the more people infected the more viral load u are likely to ingest??

Nope.

Still clinging?