COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[roubaixtuesday]

I think people don’t quite realise that it is perfectly possible that the case numbers rise naturally...

Ah, the magick theory of epidemiology.

I don't think you realise that's absolute bollocks

 

[BlueAnorak]

No the transmission rate is asymptomatic people is 0 to 2.2% as opposed to 1 to 18% symptomatic

I'm glad you can make sense of the numbers. Still big in comparison - especially as an asymptomatic person is still at large,with only Covidiots not isolating while ill.

 

[BlueAnorak]

There is a new feature on the Gov web site. A heat map tracking the ages in narrow bands across the pandemic of who is testing positive week to week.

Fascinating to see how this has changed through time.

Right now the lowest numbers aside from from those aged 0 to 4 (almost nil) are in a surprising age group.

65 - 74.

Indeed they seem to have been low through much of the pandemic.

Not that difficult to understand:
- They know they're at risk so are keeping themselves to themselves.
- They're generally not in a care home.
- They're much less likely to have a carer visiting their home.

 

[trumpton]

We are East Lancashire and I feel we’ve been in lockdown since March apart for couple of months.
You‘re going to have your work I put out if they give the go ahead.

You're not wrong. Our restaurants that are open in Merseyside and Cheshire are up between 45 and 112% based on last years sales!

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Maybe not, I was looking at our area last night, and the oldest group went from the highest, to the least over a couple of days, my summation was not many in the oldest group, and some had sadly died.

Another one of those posts I want to hit the 'like' button because I agree with it, but then it doesn't feel right in the context of what you've posted. Tragic, but yeah, that's a fair assessment.

 

[Healdplace]

GM Scoreboard:

794 cases - up from 625. 37% of NW total of 2164. Lowest in months. Was over 50% six weeks ago.

3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v TODAY:- 1049 v 807 v 793 v 794 TODAY. Last three weeks flat as can be.


Pop Score is cases across whole pandemic v 100,000 people - rises daily but lower the better.

Weekly Pop is same measure across last 7 days only. Can rise or fall depending on if more cases or less occur today v the same day last week,


Either way Up is bad, down is good.



Manchester 160 – up from 128. Total cases 33, 279. Weekly 973. Still falling which is good. Pop score up 28 to enter the 6000 club at 6019. Weekly Pop down 4 to 175.

Oldham 88 - up from 58. Total cases 15, 728. Weekly 443. Pop score up 37 to 6633. Blackburn had a bad day and went up 48 to become the first in Britain to enter the 7000 club at 7030 – so is now 397 above Oldham as worst in UK. Oldham's Weekly Pop up 10 to 187.

Wigan 86 – down from 91. Total cases 17, 882. Weekly 560. Pop score up 27 to 5441. Weekly Pop down 7 to 170.

Bolton 82 up from 50. Total cases 16, 126. Weekly 452. Pop score up 28 to 5608. Weekly Pop up 6 to 157.

Stockport 74 – up from 34, Biggest rise today. Total cases 11, 278. Weekly 317. Pop score up 26 to 3844. Not a great day here. Loses much of ground gained recently. Weekly Pop up 6 to 108.

Salford 72 up from 58. Total cases 14, 227. Weekly 426. Pop score up 28 to 5497. Weekly Pop up 5 to 165.

Rochdale 70 - down from 72. Total cases 13, 706. Weekly 463. Pop score up 31 to 6162. Weekly Pop down 6 to 208. Might have no GM borough over 200 finally tomorrow.

Bury 69 – up from 58. Total cases 10, 670. Weekly 374. Pop score up 37 to 5588, Weekly Pop down 15 to 197. Big fall in cases week to week and cracks the 200 barrier.

Trafford 59 – up from 36. Not doing so well here either suddenly. Total cases 9261. Weekly 286. Pop score up 25 to 3902. Gains one on Stockport in overall Pop and is now just 58 behind. Weekly Pop up 8 to 121, Highest it has been in nearly 3 weeks and further behind here after being sub 100 on its own recently.

Tameside 34 – down from 40 and top of the tree again here. Total cases 10, 961. Weekly 220. Lowest in GM. Pop score up 15 to 4839. Lowest rise in GM today Weekly Pop up 1 to 97 . The only sub 100 borough - though just. But increases lead on Stockport to 11.

 

[Ban-jani]

Interesting article. But 42% less chance than a symptomatic carrier is still a big chance. 4%-41% as opposed to 46%+

I was basically asymptomatic, I just felt a little achey like the flu in the end, but even before that came on I gave it my Mrs and mother in law (she was in our bubble when it was allowed).

I was with the mother in law for ten minutes and stood away from her.

It can spread so easily.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Lateral Flow testing is being rolled out everywhere (care homes, NHS workers, schools by the first week in Jan) over the last weeks and into the new year. A +ve test means you have to isolate for 10 days or until you have a more accurate -ve PCR test.
Shame the tests are not being separated from PCR tests in a different pillar.so we can see the impact.
I think it's great and will dramatically reduce deaths in at risk groups and cases too.
GOOD NEWS.

 

[squirtyflower]

You're not wrong. Our restaurants that are open in Merseyside and Cheshire are up between 45 and 112% based on last years sales!

That’s really good going at 112%.
Are they rammed or just a good turn over all day?
We haven’t eaten out in the NE since last January and it used to be at least once a week, although we went out a few times when in Cornwall in September.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I was basically asymptomatic, I just felt a little achey like the flu in the end, but even before that came on I gave it my Mrs and mother in law (she was in our bubble when it was allowed).

I was with the mother in law for ten minutes and stood away from her.

It can spread so easily.

So true. The asymptomatic spreader doesn't think they are ill enough to think they have it and isolate while symptomatic cases do (for the most part) isolate.

 

[Manc in London]

While I agree with some of what you say about this government being a shower etc
I think having had my kids at home for months not really learning because we’re both working, it really is important to keep them in school.
It’s a difficult balance and doesn’t please anyone.
The London thing is a disgrace though, they have pretty much waited until Christmas holidays to introduce this to limit impact to london
Fuck London it’s not the only place that matters

As has been mentioned several times before, up until very recently London figs were more positive than a number of regions, including the NW.

As for others stating that there is a north-south divide with the Govt making decisions that favour the economy in London....

"Dole queues have risen fastest in London during the Covid pandemic, official figures reveal today.They show the claimant count in the capital hitting 491,295, or 8.1 per cent, in November.
This is a jump of 313,880 in a year, or a 5.2 percentage points rise.

This compares to an increase in the North East of 2.9 percentage points, 3.5 in the North West, 3.3 in Yorkshire and the Humber, three in the East Midlands, 3.5 in the West Midlands, 3.2 in the East of England and the South East, and 2.9 in the South West."

Taken from the Evening Standard

 

[BlueAnorak]

One of the biggest problems in the health service and care services has been the discovery that health care disinfectants are crap.
Good news! The Army biohazard boys have come up with a compressed air based spray to nuke viruses. For sale now in vast quantities. VIRUSEND is the product.

Access Restricted

www.telegraph.co.uk

Using it to nuke my shopping and clean surfaces in preparation for my father coming to stay at Christmas even though he tells me he's "Gone to the Vets." (Had his 1st jab.)

 

[BlueAnorak]

As has been mentioned several times before, up until very recently London figs were more positive than a number, including the NW.

As for others stating that there is a north-south divide with the Govt making decisions that favour the economy in London....

"Dole queues have risen fastest in London during the Covid pandemic, official figures reveal today.They show the claimant count in the capital hitting 491,295, or 8.1 per cent, in November.
This is a jump of 313,880 in a year, or a 5.2 percentage points rise.

This compares to an increase in the North East of 2.9 percentage points, 3.5 in the North West, 3.3 in Yorkshire and the Humber, three in the East Midlands, 3.5 in the West Midlands, 3.2 in the East of England and the South East, and 2.9 in the South West."

Taken from the Evening Standard

People not working in central London has nuked the hospitality industry down there.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

One of the biggest problems in the health service and care services has been the discovery that health care disinfectants are crap.
Good news! The Army biohazard boys have come up with a compressed air based spray to nuke viruses. For sale now in vast quantities. VIRUSEND is the product.

Access Restricted

www.telegraph.co.uk

Using it to nuke my shopping and clean surfaces in preparation for my father coming to stay at Christmas even though he tells me he's "Gone to the Vets." (Had his 1st jab.)

will it end the scourge of MRSA and the like?

 

[trumpton]

That’s really good going at 112%.
Are they rammed or just a good turn over all day?
We haven’t eaten out in the NE since last January and it used to be at least once a week, although we went out a few times when in Cornwall in September.

Pretty much rammed throughout the day to the reduced capacity they are operating with. Without reduced capacity all restaurants would be on a minimum of 100% growth.

My place of work opened up online bookings only last Wednesday for a reopen on Saturday 19th. Over 200 booked in already!

 

[KS55]

We need to vaccinate 10 times that rate. Hopefully we will when GPs join the fray.

My GP has deen vaccinating for the whole area. Has now run out and awaits new supplies. All available slots booked.

 

[BlueHammer85]

As has been mentioned several times before, up until very recently London figs were more positive than a number, including the NW.

As for others stating that there is a north-south divide with the Govt making decisions that favour the economy in London....

"Dole queues have risen fastest in London during the Covid pandemic, official figures reveal today.They show the claimant count in the capital hitting 491,295, or 8.1 per cent, in November.
This is a jump of 313,880 in a year, or a 5.2 percentage points rise.

This compares to an increase in the North East of 2.9 percentage points, 3.5 in the North West, 3.3 in Yorkshire and the Humber, three in the East Midlands, 3.5 in the West Midlands, 3.2 in the East of England and the South East, and 2.9 in the South West."

Taken from the Evening Standard

the anti London obsession is rather tedious

 

[KS55]

He has a point.

everyone knows the dangers now.

we shouldn't need Boris to police us on this.

Quite. Lots of personal responsibility required. Our extended family have modified our usual get together plan. Big party next year all being well.
I notice that a large proportion of ppl told to isolate by tracers actually don't bother.

 

[trumpton]

Not a conspiracy theorist, but any chance this large increase in positive cases are actually cases that have been deliberately held back to justify retaining the existing tiers?

 

[KS55]

Welsh First Minister Mark Drakeford advised that only two households should be able to "form an exclusive Christmas bubble", in a slight breakaway from Westminster.

Boris says three

Two for us under plan b. Plan a, four households, abandoned.