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KS55 said:
Quite. Lots of personal responsibility required. Our extended family have modified our usual get together plan. Big party next year all being well.
I notice that a large proportion of ppl told to isolate by tracers actually don't bother.
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The government grift on "personal responsibility" seems to have really taken hold now. Everyone is obsessed with illicit parties and "covidiots" being behind cases rather than acknowledging the fact that a lot of people are being required to work through this and offered no support to step back if they're sick.
 
Mon Autre said:
The government grift on "personal responsibility" seems to have really taken hold now. Everyone is obsessed with illicit parties and "covidiots" being behind cases rather than acknowledging the fact that a lot of people are being required to work through this and offered no support to step back if they're sick.
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Yep. I'm convinced that the vast majority of people who are getting it are doing nothing more than working/using public transport/having kids in schools etc. Illegal parties will be a tiny amount of it.
 
worsleyweb said:
Well unless i am thick - that is wrong?

1 week 138k - 7.176 million a year - say we need to do 60 million? - That's 8.37 years.

We will get up to half a million a week i would imagine at some point.
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And once health staff and the vulnerable are done, things look up PDQ. I guess not even a year to achieve that
 
twosips said:
Yep. I'm convinced that most people who are getting it are doing nothing more than working/using public transport/having kids in schools etc.
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Totally. Hence why the worst hit towns are the same towns where people are working in distribution centres sending stuff out to the people sat at home banging on about how easy it's all been. There's a reason why the poorest towns are being worst hit, and it isn't because they're all having parties and disregarding the rules.
 
trumpton said:
Not a conspiracy theorist, but any chance this large increase in positive cases are actually cases that have been deliberately held back to justify retaining the existing tiers?
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Must admit I thought the same when I saw today's figures especially as Heald Place says that the published figures doesn't just relate to the last 24 hours.
 
Blue and still suffering said:
Must admit I thought the same when I saw today's figures especially as Heald Place says that the published figures doesn't just relate to the last 24 hours.
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Wait until you see tomorrows numbers with 11,000 extra cases from Wales in them that went missing for the past week when they did a systems upgrade.

Instead of today's 25,000 we might be well into the 30.000s and panic will ensue for those caught unawares. Though it will be scarily high the number will be artificial as the Wales data has been 2000 or so too low every day for the past five days making it look more respectable than it was.

However, I would always rate cock up ahead of conspiracy theory for these things when they happen based on how frequently they tend to do so. Number crunching on this scale with 4 nations acting on their own is bound to result in the occasional problem. .
 
I saw that about Wales and would agree that the media will sensationalise it without looking at the story behind it.
I can also see your point about cock up rather than conspiracy having worked in the public sector for 40 years. However I wouldn't put it past the politicians and their advisors to spin the figures to suit their agenda.
Keep up the good work on the figures I and I am sure others on this forum, appreciate your daily updates.
 
Healdplace said:
Wait until you see tomorrows numbers with 11,000 extra cases from Wales in them that went missing for the past week when they did a systems upgrade.

Instead of today's 25,000 we might be well into the 30.000s and panic will ensue for those caught unawares. Though it will be scarily high the number will be artificial as the Wales data has been 2000 or so too low every day for the past five days making it look more respectable than it was.

However, I would always rate cock up ahead of conspiracy theory for these things when they happen based on how frequently they tend to do so. Number crunching on this scale with 4 nations acting on their own is bound to result in the occasional problem. .
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Hopefully they'll do a correction to the figures for previous days at the same time.
 
trumpton said:
Pretty much rammed throughout the day to the reduced capacity they are operating with. Without reduced capacity all restaurants would be on a minimum of 100% growth.

My place of work opened up online bookings only last Wednesday for a reopen on Saturday 19th. Over 200 booked in already!
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Let’s hope you can get something going and don’t have to waste the order.
My son’s birthday tomorrow so he booked the restaurant a while back and is just waiting for today’s decision.
He’s already had COVID, is young for and healthy but is cooped up like everyone else.
 
twosips said:
Yep. I'm convinced that the vast majority of people who are getting it are doing nothing more than working/using public transport/having kids in schools etc. Illegal parties will be a tiny amount of it.
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I know 10 individuals who have had it. Every single one got it from an outbreak at work. 3 teachers, 2 care workers, 5 kitchen staff.
 
artfuldodger said:
I know 10 individuals who have had it. Every single one got it from an outbreak at work. 3 teachers, 2 care workers, 5 kitchen staff.
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Covidiots hey! Trying to earn a living. How dare they. Same for my best mate too. His missus was told that they had to go to the office to work, despite being perfectly capable of WFH. She caught it. He then did too.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Perhaps if they treated themselves the same as the rest of the country there wouldn't be an issue.
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So you're talking about the political elite in London? (Who weirdly seem to still have the backing of lots of people on this forum). Rather than the whole of London.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
the anti London obsession is rather tedious
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It does get a little tedious but then on the flip side many of my LinkedIn connections were moaning about how businesses were going to cope in tier 3 this week and how terrible it is.

I am sat there reading this when our communities have either been in tier 3 or lockdown for many many weeks now, with no end in sight.
 
Ban-jani said:
It does get a little tedious but then on the flip side many of my LinkedIn connections were moaning about how businesses were going to cope in tier 3 this week and how terrible it is.

I am sat there reading this when our communities have either been in tier 3 or lockdown for many many weeks now, with no end in sight.
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likewise, i'm in Kent we've been in tier3 for many weeks now , but i don't really care if London or other areas up north are in tier 2 or 3, it is what it is.
 
Mon Autre said:
The government grift on "personal responsibility" seems to have really taken hold now. Everyone is obsessed with illicit parties and "covidiots" being behind cases rather than acknowledging the fact that a lot of people are being required to work through this and offered no support to step back if they're sick.
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Another factor is "close knit communities". It's a lot harder to keep your distance when families live on the same street or just around the corner. I am sure this is one of the reasons why Covid rates are so high in places like the South Wales ex-mining towns and villages.

Obviously, high levels of underlying health problems and a tendency to be doing the sorts of jobs where you cant work from home (e.g. shoulder to shoulder in a food processing factory) is also playing a part in those places.
 
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