Another new Brexit thread

[bluethrunthru]

I'll glibly overlook your first sentence if you don't mind, as you've not been right yet.
If we've mirrored the EU/Mexico deal, which looks to be the case, whatever checks made are what were made before, obviously. You are actually saying that nobody will be able to live and work in the EU, tell me why nobody can, and why not. Whilst being in the EU, if I wanted to reside in Spain, I needed
to apply for residency, by proving a certain regular income, and taking out health insurance. You talk of visiting property, which restricts to 90 days,
reciprocal arrangements will almost certainly extend this back to 180, but
if visas are required, unless you're a bad 'un this poses no problems.
No country which has large investors in its properties, and the subsequent enormous boost to its economy by these owners, is going to make it difficult for them.

denial and evasion - the very last point made me laugh out loud given the Mails furious headline only a couple of weeks ago pointing out how changes from 1/1/21 mean the amount of time a Little Englander will be able to spend in his apartment in Benalmadena will be restricted. Look it up - you can add your fury to theirs.

 

[west didsblue]

An FTA will not mirror the benefits of the Single Market, nor will it provide the same seamless access.

The Govt is building giant lorry parks, we need thousands of extra customs agents, ports are petitioning for funding to build new infrastructure to cope with the extra workload in servicing business between the UK and Europe.

They are not doing all this in the expectation that business will carry on as before. Trade will be more difficult, require more work and incur greater administrative costs.

In face of actual physical evidence of what the Govt is doing, or the work being done with the new NI protocols that apply to trade between GB and NI you cannot keep pretending that trade with Europe will face no change or even that trade within our own sovereign territory will be unaffected.

He can pretend what he wants.
It's Brexit.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I see Macron has caught Covid, he might want to avoid his elderly wife.

Fancy shagging your teacher at 15, she'd have been banged up if she were over
here. Mind you, I'd have done the same.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

denial and evasion - the very last point made me laugh out loud given the Mails furious headline only a couple of weeks ago pointing out how changes from 1/1/21 mean the amount of time a Little Englander will be able to spend in his apartment in Benalmadena will be restricted. Look it up - you can add your fury to theirs.

Don't need to look anything up, I go there regularly., which is why I mentioned 90 days, and what would happen.
Anyone who owns property abroad is a Little Englander are they? well, better than a little wanker I suppose.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

He can pretend what he wants.
It's Brexit.

And he can believe what he wants, which is for the country to suffer.
It's a free country though, all types are endured.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Don't need to look anything up, I go there regularly., which is why I mentioned 90 days, and what would happen.
Anyone who owns property abroad is a Little Englander are they? well, better than a little wanker I suppose.

temper, temper

 

[BobKowalski]

The article you quoted stated that we were 'Hoping' to rollover around 40 deals, so nothing before that then. Then we've had a minus seat government and an election, and within less than THREE years have secured over 50.
Many more will be close.
So not years and years, decades, or if at all, in fact, pretty damn good.
No so good if your wishing for failure, but hey-ho.

Actually, it’s over three years given the article stated talks had been started and working groups established with 21 countries by March 2018. Importantly though we have established that these agreements have been years in the making.

I would also refer you to my post of several days ago stating that ‘the officials working on these rollover deals deserve credit for getting them over the line’.

Trade deals take years, even the quick ones, although as the Australia/US deal showed, ‘quick’ does not equate to ‘good’. This is just objective fact.

 

[BobKowalski]

More EU Deal news...@nickgutteridge

‘The two sides have wrapped up negotiations on public procurement. The UK will give European companies bidding for public sector contracts 'equal treatment' to British ones and vice-versa, Michel Barnier briefed MEPs. He called it 'a very good agreement'.

EU figures estimate public sector spending makes up about 15 per cent of GDP in most developed economies, so this is a really important issue for both sides. European firms have huge financial interests in the UK - from running rail franchises to making the new blue passports.’

 

[Len Rum]

So we’ve established that these rollover deals now being announced have been years in the making and not just ‘miraculously appeared’ over the last few months.

Progress.

Come on Bob cut Liz Truss some slack.
She's had to sit in an office with a big photocopier copying thousands of pages of EU trade documents with other countries ( some of which will have been double sided) and THEN tippex out EU and replace it with UK and bind the whole document up again.
THEN she's had to have loads of photos taken of herself on the phone pretending to finalise the deals with the Governments of all those countries.
I mean come on!

 

[mat]

I see Macron has caught Covid, he might want to avoid his elderly wife.

He's too old for her now.

 

[BobKowalski]

Ah, the good old days of queues and passport stamps :)

 

[Ban-jani]

Is the deal done then?

 

[Vic]

Ah, the good old days of queues and passport stamps :)

Is that right? We can still use e-gates coming back into the UK and they can't stamp your passport.

 

[hilts]

denial and evasion - the very last point made me laugh out loud given the Mails furious headline only a couple of weeks ago pointing out how changes from 1/1/21 mean the amount of time a Little Englander will be able to spend in his apartment in Benalmadena will be restricted. Look it up - you can add your fury to theirs.

Spending less time in Benalmadena isn’t a negative, must try harder.

 

[hilts]

Ah, the good old days of queues and passport stamps :)

 

[Metal Biker]

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[hilts]

Feel like my world has fallen apart mate, literally in a state of mourning now, sniff.

Stamping passports and arriving earlier? Oh my god will it ever end?

 

[Rascal]

More EU Deal news...@nickgutteridge

‘The two sides have wrapped up negotiations on public procurement. The UK will give European companies bidding for public sector contracts 'equal treatment' to British ones and vice-versa, Michel Barnier briefed MEPs. He called it 'a very good agreement'.

EU figures estimate public sector spending makes up about 15 per cent of GDP in most developed economies, so this is a really important issue for both sides. European firms have huge financial interests in the UK - from running rail franchises to making the new blue passports.’

Not like the Tories and the EU to concentrate on getting it right for the Corporate sector.

Any deal will be a stitch up that ensures the corporate sector can continue raping the system. Tory finances will look healthier tonight as the wealthy donors send in there thank you cheques. The added bonus of access to the public sector is a bonus, it is not a BREXIT benefit outsourcing public sector contracts to the Romanian equivalent of SERCO.

We need no deal so we can take back those foreign owned parts of the public sector and put them back into public ownership that benefits the people of the UK , not shareholders in EU based corporations.

The Tories are making sure the axles of capitalism are well oiled indeed. Quelle quelle honte, mais pas une surprise.

 

[BobKowalski]

Feel like my world has fallen apart mate, literally in a state of mourning now, sniff.

Stamping passports and arriving earlier? Oh my god will it ever end?

It will always be the little things making life that tiny bit difficult in a thousand different ways.

The weird thing is no one ever posts about how life will be a tiny bit better in a thousand different ways.

Perhaps you should. :)

 

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More EU Deal news...@nickgutteridge

‘The two sides have wrapped up negotiations on public procurement. The UK will give European companies bidding for public sector contracts 'equal treatment' to British ones and vice-versa, Michel Barnier briefed MEPs. He called it 'a very good agreement'.

EU figures estimate public sector spending makes up about 15 per cent of GDP in most developed economies, so this is a really important issue for both sides. European firms have huge financial interests in the UK - from running rail franchises to making the new blue passports.’

Oh, brilliant.

So long as EU state owned companies can continue to run our utilities and take the profits abroad, then all's tickety-boo.

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