I agree. The Wales lockdown was a weird one, and didn't work by all accounts.
Maybe the original national lockdown results were skewed because it started at the moment spring was kicking in.
Maybe this is just how it will be at the usual peak spots of the year and cases will always rise because they always do. Until a vaccine, obviously.
Let’s hope the end result is as good........And play off final :-)
The suggestion is that the new variant caused numbers in Wales to grow and in London, despite being in lockdown.As i am reading it, the new variation of the Virus is what drove those figures, even through a lock down. This is the scenario they all seem to have realized at some point yesterday. Sturgeon eluded to much the same in her statement. If it's 70% more transmissible, then current guidelines and advice are useless. The Current projection's they are basing decisions on, could now have been underestimated by around 70%. So any sort of idea they had is now firmly out of the window.
Yea me too .you would hope that given the situation , as many people would be getting vaccinated today as any other day.
Just off the phone with my mum her friend was done today, in Rochdale.you would hope that given the situation , as many people would be getting vaccinated today as any other day.
We are so close to the more normal life coming back , lockdown as much as we need to get though to march , we are seeing now how it canturn in any directionIf the last one had worked we wouldn’t be back at square one within 3 weeks. The wales circuit breaker didn’t work despite many on here saying it’s what we should have done. I know teachers and schools are going beserk about the extra work, and I don’t blame them, but the testing in secondary schools may prove worthwhile. My other half is now being tested 3 times per week at Trafford NHS trust. Anything has got to be better than lockdown every other month.
Viruses that are more infectious are more likely to reproduce. Viruses that kill their hosts are less likely to reproduce so there is a general shift to infectiousness over level of illness.A question for some of the more informed on here; does a virus usually behave like this? As in becoming more contagious?
If the virus needs to find "hosts" to survive is it usual for it to become less deadly yet more contagious?
With the increased level of infecriousness, Schools CANNOT reopen without regular LF testing.If the last one had worked we wouldn’t be back at square one within 3 weeks. The wales circuit breaker didn’t work despite many on here saying it’s what we should have done. I know teachers and schools are going beserk about the extra work, and I don’t blame them, but the testing in secondary schools may prove worthwhile. My other half is now being tested 3 times per week at Trafford NHS trust. Anything has got to be better than lockdown every other month.
From what I hear medical people have been told to expect to be issuing the mass vaccination programme from 2 weeks tomorrow - by which they seem sure the Oxford vaccine will be ready to go and approved. A friend of mine has been told this too as she is in the very vulnerable category and they wanted to assess the best way for her to access it. She was led to believe her jab could be done in the Etihad complex somewhere that week.We simply don't have the stocks of vaccines to do that at the moment having advance orders and holding physical stocks are very different as the Oxford vaccine comes online expect to see the ramp with sports stadia and popup centres appearing.
Its already fairly widespread in Holland and Denmark.So flights to Holland, Belgium,Italy, Austria and soon Germany and France all suspended from the U.K. are flights and travel between those countries also cancelled or are we to believe this new strain is solely in the U.K. ??
Ah , you’ve just answered my question from earlier . So they are administering vaccines todayAs I posted earlier Hancock said himself today on TV that 350,000 jabs had been done by 8 am yesterday and they were expecting half a million to be done by this evening.
My mother is 82 and can't venture anywhere full stop.Of course it's serious, but expecting the old and or vulnerable to venture out in the middle of a winters night ain't going to happen
Evoluton should favour improvements in transmissability and declines in pathogenicity because these are the events that favour survival of the virus which accidentally acquire these traits. But no hard rulesA question for some of the more informed on here; does a virus usually behave like this? As in becoming more contagious?
If the virus needs to find "hosts" to survive is it usual for it to become less deadly yet more contagious?
A little detail starts to emerge. NERVTAG (science committee minutes) have been published.
Estimated increase in R 0.39-0.93. By comparison, closing all schools is estimated to reduce R by 0.4. I'm still sceptical it's really that bad, R estimates for this are very difficult, but that's really just personal speculation.
Terrible case numbers today too, 35,000
It's doubling every 6 days under tier 3. That's ~100x increase by end Jan. I think we're now into "full national lock down until vulnerable are vaccinated" territory, unless those estimates are significantly out.
Doubtless that won't be announced until Johnson has repeatedly promised not to, insulted anyone who suggests it and then waited until the absolute last moment.