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cleavers said:
I'd put you on ignore, but unfortunately as a mod I don't have that privilege, you're an idiot that is clear enough (feel free to report that).
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Hey I'm fair game, you are too, we are debating from different sides it doesn't mean I dislike you. I think you are an idiot too to be fair. You've not yet realised that the news presenters you watch, and the politicians and scientist you listen to don't observe their own rules, and are wowed by fancy graphs and data. But is is a divisive thread and every time I post here I expect opposition, and sometimes support haha. No worries and I wish you well and hope you have a nice Christmas.
 
oman0115 said:
Vallance
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Right, that figure came from a worst case scenario not a prediction or a forecast.

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lancs blue said:
Right, that figure came from a worst case scenario not a prediction or a forecast.

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Fiction then, based upon assumptions, from experts, blah blah blah. Fancy graph for nothing. The peak was first wave it was nothing like that. If that's enough for you fair enough.
 
cleavers said:
No I've given up because your head is so deep in the sand I can no longer hear you.

Please stop quoting me because you're an idiot who thinks it's all made up, so I can't be bothered to further converse with you.
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You are putting words in my mouth, which is what people like you do who can't handle oppisition. I don't think it's made up, my parents were both very ill with Covid-19, I do think the reaction is like knocking down your front room because there is an annoying fly in it, they are two very different things. I am open to discussing what's going on with people open for debate, but you are so far one way in this I don;'t think it is possible to do so without you reverting to your mod status. I will stop quoting you because frankly at this stage I assume you are wumming. Good evening, good night and have a lovely christmas.
 
cleavers said:
Are there, you'll need to point at them and clap, they said there would be no second wave, I expect their head is firmly stuck in the sand right now (at least they won't catch covid there as it doesn't dig).
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The whole problem we have is who to believe, there are conflicting versions of what's happening by different scientists, it's considered edgy not to believe the government but it's the government who call the shots where this is concerned.

I'll go with the government scientific advice because it's the easiest way forward for me without melting my head thinking about an alternative offered by other scientists who don't think the government scientists have got it right.
 
mexico1970 said:
The whole problem we have is who to believe, there are conflicting versions of what's happening by different scientists, it's considered edgy not to believe the government but it's the government who call the shots where this is concerned.

I'll go with the government scientific advice because it's the easiest way forward for me without melting my head thinking about an alternative offered by other scientists who don't think the government scientists have got it right.
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Take it all on board mate, both sides have interesting pointer, but the government is only taking one side, who may have invested interests in whats happening
 
oman0115 said:
Take it all on board mate, both sides have interesting pointer, but the government is only taking one side, who may have invested interests in whats happening
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I am not afraid to say that it is all over my head bud, from infected Minks rising from the grave to different strains developing every 10 minutes the best I can do is lock my door and hunker down for the winter.
 
oman0115 said:
Fiction then, based upon assumptions, from experts, blah blah blah. Fancy graph for nothing. The peak was first wave it was nothing like that. If that's enough for you fair enough.
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Quite a lot of scientific research in various fields is carried out using statistical modelling. What's shown in that graph are the results of preliminary models using varying parameters to get an initial idea of how the second wave MIGHT progress under different sets of circumstances. The 4,000 curve is the worst case model and as it says below the graph the models are not predictions or forecasts.
 
mexico1970 said:
I am not afraid to say that it is all over my head bud, from infected Minks rising from the grave to different strains developing every 10 minutes the best I can do is lock my door and hunker down for the winter.
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Best get your supplies in then because it'll be a long one haha
 
70+ million people in the UK and how many have died who weren't over 40 and had no underlying health issues?
 
lancs blue said:
Quite a lot of scientific research in various fields is carried out using statistical modelling. What's shown in that graph are the results of preliminary models using varying parameters to get an initial idea of how the second wave MIGHT progress under different sets of circumstances. The 4,000 curve is the worst case model and as it says below the graph the models are not predictions or forecasts.
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Fair enough, and I'm not looking to fall out with you too haha, but in march / april when it was rife I was all for lockdowns, and if you look at then and now it looks like the worst damage was done then, 4,000 was a massively inflated prediction / scenario whatever you want to call it, and with the knowledge of the virus we now have was never going to happen.
 
State of theses fucking arse-talking out of muppets tonight. Get fucking bent, no-one listens to you, except they do these days because you've got social media, and the world is less happy and working less well because of that fact.
 
VOOMER said:
70+ million people in the UK and how many have died who weren't over 40 and had no underlying health issues?
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Around 3-400 apparently.

I think the argument for an alternative strategy will gain traction from April. Until then, the benefit of the doubt will be given to carrying on as we are whilst vaccine rolled out to the vulnerable.

we can’t still be locking the country away when we have vaccinated circa 5m plus of the most vulnerable come April for eg.

plus we know that it doesn’t transfer as well in summer so buys time
 
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