Another new Brexit thread

[BigOscar]

No customs formalities is listen as a specific EU-UK benefit in the new deal.

Whatever that means.

You don't need to wear a suit and tie when going through customs. Bit of a game changer tbh

 

[hammersmithlad]

Yes and no. We have taken back control by leaving it up to thers to decide

Using your mobile in EU and EEA countries

How leaving the EU has affected mobile roaming in EU and European Economic Area (EEA) countries.

www.gov.uk

Thanks for the source although this suggests we would then need to negotiate with each EU country separately in regards to mobile phone roaming which judging by the pace of negotiating with the EU historically will take ages.

If we leave it up to the destination country then surely they would charge us (well I would) or price it in raising the price of sangria in the Costa del Sol!

 

[west didsblue]

Yes and no. We have taken back control by leaving it up to thers to decide

Using your mobile in EU and EEA countries

How leaving the EU has affected mobile roaming in EU and European Economic Area (EEA) countries.

www.gov.uk

That’s pre-deal though.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

At long last we have a Brexit deal – and it's as bad as you thought | Tom Kibasi

This barely-there treaty that will make trade harder and destroy jobs. Labour should oppose it, says Tom Kibasi, a writer on politics and economics

www.theguardian.com

The Guardian, forever on the wrong side, never fails to continue being so.

 

[Claytop]

Tbf Johnson could be out personally delivering Christmas gifts to everyone and The Guardian would be against it.

 

[bluethrunthru]

My local MP - he loves Johnson so much he even started shagging his assistant - anyway he's a bell

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Kind of. Still goalless after extra time, EU win 5-4 on penalties, VAR still checking though

Nah, penalty overruled because of goalie off his line. UK scores after penalty taken and missed.

 

[bluethrunthru]

That’s pre-deal though.

It was written pre-deal but whether anything changes from 1/1/21 will be subject to what is stated there as I have heard nothing about any changes agreed.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Today was just the end of another phase - negotiations with others about trade deals - discussions and disputes with the EU - it will bubble along for ever and a day

Why, a deal has been done. Other trade deals, yes, but they’re coming thick and fast. Imagining Armageddon scenarios is so last year.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Why, a deal has been done. Other trade deals, yes, but they’re coming thick and fast. Imagining Armageddon scenarios is so last year.

For a start its not been ratified by the EU 27 - they are taking their time and will review it in the New Year not push it through in a rush in a day next week. Remember doing that then finding out the WA wasn't what you thought it was?

Then there is the disputes system - who are the "independent arbiters"? I can imagine the ERG going mental if they find the body not to their liking AFTER being whipped to vote for the deal.

 

[ganganvince]

For a start its not been ratified by the EU 27 - they are taking their time and will review it in the New Year not push it through in a rush in a day next week. Remember doing that then finding out the WA wasn't what you thought it was?

Then there is the disputes system - who are the "independent arbiters"? I can imagine the ERG going mental if they find the body not to their liking AFTER being whipped to vote for the deal.

Had heard WTO as arbitration but not seen it in print.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

For a start its not been ratified by the EU 27 - they are taking their time and will review it in the New Year not push it through in a rush in a day next week. Remember doing that then finding out the WA wasn't what you thought it was?

Then there is the disputes system - who are the "independent arbiters"? I can imagine the ERG going mental if they find the body not to their liking AFTER being whipped to vote for the deal.

They will ratify, you know it, I know it, the arbitrator has been mutually agreed, the ERG have been contacted by Johnson, they may object, but I doubt it. Even Farage has said the Brexit war is over.
Looking for a devastating grenade that may scupper this is futile .

 

[RabidCity]

Well that's fantastic news today. It appears we can have 'sovereignty' and a trade deal after all. No doomsday yet.
It's going to fall short from our original membership in the short term, but I think Brexiteers knew that and we can look forward.

 

[bluethrunthru]

They will ratify, you know it, I know it, the arbitrator has been mutually agreed, the ERG have been contacted by Johnson, they may object, but I doubt it. Even Farage has said the Brexit war is over.
Looking for a devastating grenade that may scupper this is futile .

I bet we are still discussing this topic next year - mostly about what has not come to pass and why.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Not been on this thread for a while but I'm guessing now that the deal's been done, it should put an end to all the bickering as all sides of the debate are quite content.

If only.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Sounds like a good deal, everyone should be happy.

 

[blueparrot]

Aye the mask has slipped.

What mask, she and most in Scotland have been quite clear they are against Brexit, and want to rejoin the EU. Is it news to yourself.

 

[dave_blue12]

There's an awful lot of premature ejaculation on this thread.

Pleased we have a deal but as ever the devil will be in the detail.

Hold off on those vinegar strokes lads.

 

[Ban-jani]

Apparently some Labour MPs are going to revolt and vote against the deal.

If they are then I can’t wait to see them named, the people that voted to ruin lives.

 

[Summerbuzz]

Apparently some Labour MPs are going to revolt and vote against the deal.

If they are then I can’t wait to see them named, the people that voted to ruin lives.

How are they ruining lives, when they know it will pass? It's a symbolic act.