“The work of God”?

If it makes you happy then what is there not to like. As for me I'm more of an Old Nick sort of guy because what you see is what you get and he pulls no punches.

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations.. .. "It was just a fooking apple for gawd's sake and there are two sides to every argument"

Read early catholic (the originals) writings and satan and lucifer are two different people, with one being a devout child of god who even when cast out of heaven happily serves his Father by policing the underworld of lost souls.

Satanism is a christian religion given bad press by them medieval time zeaolet to excuse themselves stealing and adultering.

"Wasn't me govenor, satan made me do it" bloody medieval monks for ya
 
Read early catholic (the originals) writings and satan and Lucifer are two different people, with one being a devout child of god who even when cast out of heaven happily serves his Father by policing the underworld of lost souls.

Satanism is a christian religion given bad press by them medieval time zealot to excuse themselves stealing and adulterating.

"Wasn't me governor, satan made me do it" bloody medieval monks for ya
I just think they both get such a bad press. Anyway its allegedly baby Jesus's birthday today and so I shall not take him to task for creating a virus that has caused so much misery in this world. I have an hypothesis that maybe, just maybe god likes to watch people wriggle and suffer, because if this was not so he could simply snap his fingers and make all of the pain stop. Nah, wheres the fun in that then eh?
 
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I just think they both get such a bad press. Anyway its allegedly baby Jesus's birthday today and so I shall not take him to task for creating a virus that has caused so much misery in this world. I have an hypothesis that maybe, just maybe god likes to watch people wriggle and suffer, because if this was not so he could simply snap his fingers and make all of the pain stop. Nah, wheres the fun in that then eh?
Men created the virus through their dirty habits.

Free will must have consequences.
 
Losing a son must be awful.

Understandable to be angry/to have doubt as a result.

Very sorry to hear it mate.

Angry doesn't begin to describe it. Angry that people believe this shit and that it causes wars where millions are killed for absolutely nothing. When you die the only person who doesn't know you are dead is you. End of story
 
Angry doesn't begin to describe it. Angry that people believe this shit and that it causes wars where millions are killed for absolutely nothing. When you die the only person who doesn't know you are dead is you. End of story
People believe different things within religion and the vast majority of wars that kill millions have nothing to do with religion but I agree religion as a general causes many issues.
 
No I’m not a crack pot that’s the first thing. The earth is changing for the worst climate change Forrest fires water droughts extinction of wild animals the rich getting even more greedy is this our Noah’s Ark moment, killing off our loved ones and still we all show signs of the 7 deadly sins. Just need the internet to crash and burn and I’m convinced.
T shirts in December...Not sure what you mean by the "Worst". Oh and for the radical greens amongst us, not had to put the heating on either #doingmybit.

On that note, as the planet warms up less greenhouse gasses will be created heating the colder areas so are the panic mongers looking at this from a short sighted platform?
 
Am reviving this thread as I found this by chance the other day and it made me laugh. Dawkins and the other New Atheists actually feature prominently on Religious Studies A Level Religious Studies courses these days, along with the more subtle, sceptical thinkers like David Hume. So I would have used this with my sixth-form classes had I still been teaching the subject.

But anyway, click on the image to enlarge it if it's hard to read.


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That's brilliant! Where was it published?
 
I’ve never been so wrong about something in my whole life.

I look back when I was an atheist and realise I was blind.
That's interesting. It's fine not to answer this question (as it is a personal one) but what caused you to change your mind?

It's usually far more common to travel in the opposite direction. Bertrand Russell is a famous example of someone who followed that trajectory, after having initially accepted Anselm's ontological argument for the existence of God.

However, Anthony Flew is known for embracing a form of Deism towards the end of his life.

During my career in teaching, it was actually quite unusual for me to encounter colleagues in Religious Studies departments that subscribed to any kind of traditional belief in the God of classical theism e.g. omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent, personal etc.

None were evangelical in the slightest, or subscribed to a form of Christianity that was spirit-driven.

This even included school Chaplains.

The number of atheists teaching the subject is almost certainly higher than many might imagine. Typically, they would be graduates in Philosophy who found Religious Studies congenial as a subject to train in because a lot of the content is philosophical and involves the study of renowned atheists like Hume, Russell, Ayer, Mackie, Dawkins, and others. My own ex-Head of Department and good friend is an atheist but highly critical of characters like Dawkins, Hitchens and Sam Harris. And that's not unusual too.

As for me, I am agnostic and was always far more interested in Buddhism, which is non-theistic, and philosophical Taoism, which has an entirely different conception of the nature of reality.

When I was first starting out in teaching, not being a Christian could mean that you wouldn't be considered for appointment in some schools. Of course, no-one would actually say it to your face, but I am sure that I was discriminated against because of this in one or two interviews.

Fortunately, that has now all changed.

Anyway, hope your missing cat has returned.
 
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During my career in teaching, it was actually quite unusual for me to encounter colleagues in Religious Studies departments that subscribed to any kind of traditional belief in the God of classical theism e.g. omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent, personal etc.

None were evangelical in the slightest, or subscribed to a form of Christianity that was evangelical and spirit-driven.

This even included school Chaplains.

What about the nuns?
 
That's interesting. It's fine not to answer this question (as it is a personal one) but what caused you to change your mind?

It's usually far more common to travel in the opposite direction. Bertrand Russell is a famous example of someone who followed that trajectory, after having initially accepted Anselm's ontological argument for the existence of God.

However, Anthony Flew is known for embracing a form of Deism towards the end of his life.

During my career in teaching, it was actually quite unusual for me to encounter colleagues in Religious Studies departments that subscribed to any kind of traditional belief in the God of classical theism e.g. omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent, personal etc.

None were evangelical in the slightest, or subscribed to a form of Christianity that was spirit-driven.

This even included school Chaplains.

The number of atheists teaching the subject is almost certainly higher than many might imagine. Typically, they would be graduates in Philosophy who found Religious Studies congenial as a subject to train in because a lot of the content is philosophical and involves the study of renowned atheists like Hume, Russell, Ayer, Mackie, Dawkins, and others. My own ex-Head of Department and good friend is an atheist but highly critical of characters like Dawkins, Hitchens and Sam Harris. And that's not unusual too.

As for me, I am agnostic and was always far more interested in Buddhism, which is non-theistic, and philosophical Taoism, which has an entirely different conception of the nature of reality.

When I was first starting out in teaching, not being a Christian could mean that you wouldn't be considered for appointment in some schools. Of course, no-one would actually say it to your face, but I am sure that I was discriminated against because of this in one or two interviews.

Fortunately, that has now all changed.

Anyway, hope your missing cat has returned.
I don’t really know how to answer this without prompting people to think it’s a ridiculous reason.

Im not bothered about ridicule, I just want to do it justice, what happened.

I’ll just leave you with a basic description...

I had the most vivid dream of my life and saw ‘Him’.

Believe me when I say I thought about whether or not is was just a dream for many weeks, I mean really thought about it. There’s several reasons why I eventually came to the conclusion that it wasn’t just a dream.

Following that I read Matthew, Luke and John, by the time I’d finished John I was convinced it was true.

It wasn’t an easy process, I was a C.Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris etc. fan before and God is Not Great was a book I really enjoyed.

Anyone that’s completely changed their mind either way will know how difficult a process it is, if you’re being honest with yourself, it takes months.
 

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