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west didsblue said:
Having read the detail, it’s not just Euros, it’s any currency including our own.

Do any Brexiteers think that having to make a customs declaration if they’re taking more than £9000 in cash to NI as a consequence of leaving the EU is part of taking back control?
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Not sure about all, but one will ignore the question and suggest that it wasn’t the point they were trying to make, but not then make that point.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Actually the idea of Farage being placed in chamber of unelected officials is rather delicious.

Have the Brexiteers got the irony button on mute today?
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That would be the ultimate insult. I despise Farage more than any other politician and i am convinced Leave would had won convincingly if it wasnt for him being involved with the the leave campaign. I couldnt vote leave even though i came to the opinion it was the right thing to do because it would have meant siding with Farage.
 
west didsblue said:
Having read the detail, it’s not just Euros, it’s any currency including our own.

Do any Brexiteers think that having to make a customs declaration if they’re taking more than £9000 in cash to NI as a consequence of leaving the EU is part of taking back control?
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Shame no one questioned George 'Gideon' Osborne about the £63 million family trust fund he shipped off to the Cayman Islands ..in the 2000's .. earning !0% tax free.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Referring to a letter regarding the Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe case.

"That stark assessment was delivered in a letter to lawyers for Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, who asked the department to lay out the government’s view of its obligations towards her."

Strange that you'd post it that way. Almost as if someone has an agenda.

And its nothing to do with the consequence of Brexit, either. Read the articles first. It helps.
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Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe is being held hostage because the British Government is refusing to repay the £400 million paid to them to produce tanks. They accepted the money and then refused to build the tanks.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
I remember quite distinctly how we were all told that "all those trade arrangements we had with the EU" would be gone once we left.

Since then, we've re-arranged those trade arrangements and continuing the partnership with those same nations, and they themselves are stating that these arrangements aren't examples of "new deals" but the continuation of existing ones we had with the EU; the same 'deals' they said we'd lose by leaving the EU!

This is joyous to behold.
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The refuge now it seems is that:

Yeah - but these deals are not better than we had when members of the EU....

But that just misses the point - they only seem to be able to hide behind the level of trade and benefits of the CU/SM.

I see it as - in a sense - we have re-joined the EEC and avoided the the car crash journey that will be the road to full integration

And there seems to be some desperation to paint the view of Leavers to be surely one of disappointment...

What?

What is not to like?
  • We have left the EU and we can no longer get embroiled in their inevitable integration plans
  • We no longer will carry the risk of getting involved in their debt crisis
  • We have avoided major issues in January 2021 - but have options to manage the achievement of what we want to do in the future
  • We have stopped the transfer of funds for the EU to use as they see fit and can now use that funding as the UK sees fit
  • I love the 4 year review - we can plan our investments and 'push the envelope' on whether an independent body would view it as State-aid - and if they do - we can still decide to make those investments.
  • Same with fishing - we can plan our investment in the fishing industry - and seek to exert further controls in the future if we wish - we could not service greater fishing quotas at the moment anyway. That is why I would have preferred a status quo arrangement for 3-5 years.
Bottom line - some posters may wish to develop a narrative that Leave supporters should be gutted - I am afraid that it is fanciful and wishful thinking.
 
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Smart move by Sunak to get maximum leverage on the EU to give us financial equivalence after the deal is signed......oh hang on.
In any event financial equivalence is of minimal benefit to UK financial institutions -only permanent residency in EU ( usually sub offices).Whilst this has not hit the UK financial sector as much as predicted, the financial services business is worth a lot to the UK and a little of a lot can be significant.
 
mcfc1632 said:
This is for the Brexit thread because......?

You seem to have a narrative
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Hello mate - just spotted you on the thread again and was curious about your thoughts on the deal.
For a 'purist' like yourself I would imagine it's a bit shit being dragged back into the EU's orbit on trade.
It's a big constraint on bucaneering Britain and the kind of big ideas the Dom had about the Brits competing globally with the big players in the field of high tech /robotics etc.
N'est ce pas?
PS Niche player in world markets?
 
mcfc1632 said:
The refuge now it seems is that:

Yeah - but these deals are not better than we had when members of the EU....

But that just misses the point - they only seem to be able to hide behind the level of trade and benefits of the CU/SM.

I see it as - in a sense - we have re-joined the EEC and avoided the the car crash journey that will be the road to full integration

And there seems to be some desperation to paint the view of Leavers to be surely one of disappointment...

What?

What is not to like?
  • We have left the EU and we can no longer get embroiled in their inevitable integration plans
  • We no longer will carry the risk of getting involved in their debt crisis
  • We have avoided major issues in January 2021 - but have options to manage the achievement of what we want to do in the future
  • We have stopped the transfer of funds for the EU to use as they see fit and can now use that funding as the UK sees fit
  • I love the 4 year review - we can plan our investments and 'push the envelope' on whether an independent body would view it as State-aid - and if they do - we can still decide to make those investment.
  • Same with fishing - we can plan our investment in the fishing industry - and seek to exert further controls in the future if we wish - we could not service greater fishing quotas at the moment anyway. That is why I would have preferred a status quo arrangement for 3-5 years.
Bottom line - some posters may wish to develop a narrative that Leave supporters should be gutted - I am afraid that it is fanciful and wishful thinking.
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New Customs barriers, more red tape, additional costs for industries, service sectors finding themselves excluded due to non tariff barriers, an internal customs border, introducing Capital controls in our own country, duplication of regulatory costs in chemicals, medicines, setting up an extensive lobbying office in Brussels to try and influence new laws and regs that will impact on us, the many committees, depts needed to make the new deal and trading procedures work, including the NI protocols - we have to implement the deal and the WA provisions, it doesn’t just happen by magic.

And this is just scratching the surface...

What was that thing you were looking for? Ah, yes, ‘a clean break’. Oh, dear. Never mind.
 
Len Rum said:
Smart move by Sunak to get maximum leverage on the EU to give us financial equivalence after the deal is signed......oh hang on.
In any event financial equivalence is of minimal benefit to UK financial institutions -only permanent residency in EU ( usually sub offices).Whilst this has not hit the UK financial sector as much as predicted, the financial services business is worth a lot to the UK and a little of a lot can be significant.
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Is anyone seriously worried that Boris won't have made sure that his banking mates won't be fine? Not concerned in the slightest tbh.
 
blueparrot said:
Brilliant Brexit bonus, Scotland getting a new lorry park too.
www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit: Emergency lorry park in place for Cairnryan port

A former military airfield could accommodate 240 lorries if there are delays at Cairnryan port.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Only days now until all these lorry parks are full and the shops are empty :-)
What's everyone stocking up on ahead of the apocalypse? I'm thinking hp sauce as it's French and I've got a couple of bits of brie from Costco.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Only days now until all these lorry parks are full and the shops are empty :-)
What's everyone stocking up on ahead of the apocalypse? I'm thinking hp sauce as it's French and I've got a couple of bits of brie from Costco.
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I'm thinking of going to one of these lorry parks. Pick up a few 'off the wagon' bargains!
 
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