Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Keith Moncrieff]

The French blockade the ports when the new strain appeared but by the looks of it they don’t fancy having the vaccine. Strange lot

 

[Healdplace]

Shame, that.

My mate in Douglas has been stuck in Douglas since their (highly effective) Lockdown, denied his weekly trip to visit Manchester Holt's boozers.

Isle of Man my second favourite place on earth after Manchester, it had been great seeing his pics of life back to normal till now.

I love the Isle of Man too. And been going there often since I was a foetus (literally!) They have handled this in the way we should have done - seriously - from day one. And with credible deterrents and swift action when there are breaches - not waffle about being nice and careful. The benefit of protection from the UK but with real independence will show why the UK likely ends up very different after this pandemic I suspect. Both with the nations and regions. More independence of decision making will come as one good legacy out of this nightmare.

Yes there are big advantages of isolation but delighted that they have coped so well and look forward to my next trip there when that is finally possible.

 

[mcfc1632]

In my experience, old vulnerable people are frightened of going outdoors at the best of times, let alone in the middle of the night in winter when the driving conditions will be far from ideal.

i suspect many have had the red eye flights, but wont recall seeing many over 80s on them

My 94 year old dad is due his jab on Sunday - but I know he would have gone any time at all

My wife's parents are late 80's - same with them and the parents of a few mates I can think of.

Those age groups are no longer all as infirm and reclusive as generations gone by

 

[mosssideblue]

My 94 year old dad is due his jab on Sunday - but I know he would have gone any time at all

My wife's parents are late 80's - same with them and the parents of a few mates I can think of.

Those age groups are no longer all as infirm and reclusive as generations gone by

Fair play to them

 

[Bluesince1979]

thats twice though mate so say £100, prob end up with Capita controlling it and making a pile of money, with back handers of course going in Hancock's pocket

Id pay it. Im in and out of houses daily. If it meant my self and my customers were safe then even looking at it from a strictly business view it can only be good.

If we have enough vaccines then shirley rolling it out privately as well as the current way can only get it out quicker ?

 

[hammocity]

My mums elderly friend had hers done at a drive through in Ashton under Lyne. Just wound the window down and done. Then park up in a bay for 15 mins.

Where in Ashton? I'm desperately trying to get information from my 88 year old dad's surgery for when his is jab is due. They won't take calls and are not answering my emails. We both live in Ashton, he's on the shielding list due to previous heart attacks, any info would be appreciated, cheers.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Trying to work out safest and best option re childcare. Both parents unable to work from home for at least a couple of days a week, both work in fairly to high risk environments. For the days where we don't work from home, is it safer to send kids to nursery or to grandparents in the 65-70 age group (good health, haven't already knowingly had the virus)? I genuinely have no idea what's best, weighed in the mental impact of the grandparents if we chose to put him into nursery and they don't get to spend time etc.

It was easier in March in a way when it was simply a case of contact wasn't permitted, so our mind was made up. I don't know if this néw strain is likely to be more transmissible to and from kids of that young an age group or not.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales data first up:

There will be some scary numbers today in many places from the last of the Christmas/New Year catch ups.

76 deaths (it was 13 last week)

2238 cases (it was 2281 last week)

From 12, 493 tests.

17.9% positive

 

[mosssideblue]

Id pay it. Im in and out of houses daily. If it meant my self and my customers were safe then even looking at it from a strictly business view it can only be good.

If we have enough vaccines then shirley rolling it out privately as well as the current way can only get it out quicker ?

How would your customers be safe?

 

[xgorton]

I love the Isle of Man too. And been going there often since I was a foetus (literally!) They have handled this in the way we should have done - seriously - from day one. And with credible deterrents and swift action when there are breaches - not waffle about being nice and careful. The benefit of protection from the UK but with real independence will show why the UK likely ends up very different after this pandemic I suspect. Both with the nations and regions. More independence of decision making will come as one good legacy out of this nightmare.

Yes there are big advantages of isolation but delighted that they have coped so well and look forward to my next trip there when that is finally possible.

Last visit to Isle of Man was the week they had that terrible fire in Summerland complex 1973.

 

[M18CTID]

The French blockade the ports when the new strain appeared but by the looks of it they don’t fancy having the vaccine. Strange lot

The most vaccine sceptic nation on earth apparently. We think we have an issue with the anti-vaxxer mob over here but I read somewhere that only 40% of the French population are prepared to have it, compared to 77% in the UK

 

[twosips]

Very frustrating. Hopefully it's just one particular frustrated case, not a widespread issue.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Trying to work out safest and best option re childcare. Both parents unable to work from home for at least a couple of days a week, both work in fairly to high risk environments. For the days where we don't work from home, is it safer to send kids to nursery or to grandparents in the 65-70 age group (good health, haven't already knowingly had the virus)? I genuinely have no idea what's best, weighed in the mental impact of the grandparents if we chose to put him into nursery and they don't get to spend time etc.

It was easier in March in a way when it was simply a case of contact wasn't permitted, so our mind was made up. I don't know if this néw strain is likely to be more transmissible to and from kids of that young an age group or not.

Given the latest research that younger aged children are as susceptible as adults to catching the virus, but mostly asymptomatically, I wouldn’t send them to grandparents and subject the oldies to risk.

 

[kaz7]

Starmer calling for a 24/7 vaccination programme. Very good call, but sadly i doubt the powers that be will sort it.

You cant be getting elderly and people with serious conditions out during the night

 

[denislawsbackheel]

The most vaccine sceptic nation on earth apparently. We think we have an issue with the anti-vaxxer mob over here but I read somewhere that only 40% of the French population are prepared to have it, compared to 77% in the UK

And yet you cannot send a child to school in France without a certificate to prove they have had Diptheria, tetanus, polio, whooping cough, measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis B, influenza, pneumonia and meningitis C vaccinations.

And home schooling is illegal.

 

[Messi38]

And yet you cannot send a child to school in France without a certificate to prove they have had Diptheria, tetanus, polio, whooping cough, measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis B, influenza, pneumonia and meningitis C vaccinations.

More injections than Ewan McGregor in Trainspotting there, wow.

 

[twosips]

You cant be getting elderly and people with serious conditions out during the night

Get the ones who can get it out at night then. There will always be some willing. Many vulnerable people are still very capable of popping in a car and getting it done.

 

[Healdplace]

Last visit to Isle of Man was the week they had that terrible fire in Summerland complex 1973.

That fire was awful. Stayed in a flat in Onchan overlooking it just before it happened. Such a tragedy.

My earliest memory of a holiday is going to a family wedding there. My dad and brother loved the TT and we went for that often in the 50s and 60s. My other half was a huge motorbike fan too and he went there on the Kipper Express every Summer. I had a radio show commitment so was unable to go with him most years but did when I could - after the racing was over. It is a special island. I have written a lot about it.

So pleased they are coming through this relatively well.

 

[kaz7]

This morning , informative as ever on covid

Today about fifteen mins in, two of the mostly women team behind the oxford vaccine

There was already a template in place in the event of a pandemic , it was already safety tested so they werent going from a standing start

They are not worried about the mutation because of the bodies response to the vaccine

Astra Zenica wont make a single penny from it and it will be given to poor countries as well

They have kids and one was ironing the kids uniforms when word came through it was approved , they saved the world and did home schooling , so no excuses

Worth a look on catch up

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Given the latest research that younger aged children are as susceptible as adults to catching the virus, but mostly asymptomatically, I wouldn’t send them to grandparents and subject the oldies to risk.

I'm inclined to go with this opinion too, I think it'll be a compromise battle with the grandparents on the phone that they can see the kid in an outdoor setting for a couple of hours a week, try to minimise risk as much as possible whilst trying to stop them from becoming utterly miserable because they can't see him. It's tough!