Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Churchlawtonblue]

Starmer calling for a 24/7 vaccination programme. Very good call, but sadly i doubt the powers that be will sort it.

 

[blueparrot]

Yes of course. I guess my point really is that it should have an impact on numbers soon, not cos of the threshold, more cos of the kind of person who it can reach. I think its fair to say that a big majority of the ones getting it right now are simply more likely to get by the very nature of how they live and what they do. Those who work in public facing jobs etc, or those being a bit less cautious with the rules/hygiene.

Eventually those people will have been hit, the easy tinder to light so to speak, and there will be less of that easy tinder available for the virus. You can only presume that rest who haven't had it are either lucky, which will be a lot admittedly, or most likely (the majority of this bunch i'd guess) just relatively hard to reach for the virus given lots are working from home, washing hands and sticking to the rules pretty much down to a tee. I'd wager that's still a pretty big chunk of the country.

So in theory it should hopefully slow down if its burning through those currently more susceptible (through lifestyle) given that getting it to the next bunch of people isn't as easy as they're a bit more hidden away. I think we forget that it can't necessarily reach everyone at the same speed because some are just more much statistically less likely to get it. Home workers etc. The first 25% will be the ones more likely to get it, the next 20% should be a bit harder, and the final chunk even harder after that. Each time the spread should thin out in theory... Hopefully if this is the case it should slow down and buy us some time for vaccines.

Thought this myself, plus a high number of younger people will have had it without knowing schools ,students etc,we seem to be getting the numbers quite similar to France early November. They had a steep fall to about the 10000 mark by the end of November. Only guessing but maybe for the reasons you’ve said. Can only hope that combined with vaccinating will see a steep fall here too.

 

[grunge]

You know, among all the shit this pandemic has caused, the one recurring thought I have at random times is how the fuck the Chinese have not been held to account for this as yet. I hope that day arrives at some point soon.

Outside of animal husbandry that may have caused it. And a bit of heavy handed secrecy at the start what do they need to be held to account for?

ironically we could be accused of exactly the same stuff with the new strain. Spotted months ago, told no one. And even when we identified it we didn’t lock down to the good of the world.

I’m sure there will be plenty of people out there calling for our heads soon.

 

[cleavers]

Starmer calling for a 24/7 vaccination programme. Very good call, but sadly i doubt the powers that be will sort it.

It's a good sound bite but it's not practical, if you are asked to turn up for an appointment at 0435 would you go ? You might, but many would just say no, and for many legitimate reasons.

 

[Healdplace]

Cheshire East for Andyhinch

Cases 180 - down from 279.

Total cases 13, 451.

Pop Score up 47 to 3502.

First day in some time Cheshire East bettered Stockport. So going the right way.

Weekly Pop 442 - down 16 from 458.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

It's a good sound bite but it's not practical, if you are asked to turn up for an appointment at 0435 would you go ? You might, but many would just say no, and for many legitimate reasons.

i would go, i think the option should be there, You can shop at tesco 24hrs a day. whats more important? Toilet rolls or a vaccination

 

[mcfc_ms]

My father-in-law had his second jab today as per his original appointment, my mum is due her’s on Sunday and I’m hoping she doesn’t get rearranged before then but she’s not heard anything as yet.

My grandparents are getting their 2nd one tomorrow.

My other Gran couldn’t have the Pfizer one due to a big reaction she had to antibiotics a few months ago, so hopefully she can get the Oxford one soon

My mum works in the NHS and has been told today they are going to start getting their vaccinations soon

Such huge Positives that we can focus on

 

[Healdplace]

It's a good sound bite but it's not practical, if you are asked to turn up for an appointment at 0435 would you go ? You might, but many would just say no, and for many legitimate reasons.

Would have thought there might be genuine health reasons why doing that might impact the immune system of some of the older ones they are targetting .

 

[Healdplace]

Swansea

Cases 137 - down from 145.

Total cases 14, 456

Pop score up 56 to 5853

Weekly Pop 403 up 3 from 400.

 

[cleavers]

Would have thought there might be genuine health reasons why doing that might impact the immune system of some of the older ones they are targetting .

I can't see many 70/80 year olds turning up in the middle of the night, like I said it's a good politician sound bite, but totally impractical in reality.

 

[Ric]

This seems pretty stupid, if true.

 

[marco]

And yet vocational exams are being made to go ahead over the next few weeks. I’m going to be in close contact with just over 200 different 16-18 year olds over the next month or so. Mental!

its crazy mate,just been watching GMB from this morning and they really have no idea what their doing, i'd say the hospital system as we know it may well collapse within two weeks, its heartbreaking to see the head of ICU wards pleading to deaf ears, growm men dedicated to their work near to tears, very sad

 

[twosips]

This seems pretty stupid, if true.

The Sunday bit is the most striking for me. Why would they decide to just take Sunday off? It's literally one of the two days that most will be more likely to be available. Baffling. It should be an around the clock thing. It's literally a matter of life and death.

Edit - just read the rest of the article. Fuck me. Why are they ignoring people literally trained in giving jabs?

 

[Healdplace]

Kent

Dartford

Cases 221 - up from 169.

Total 6759

Pop score up 196 (highest rise I have seen today) to enter the 6000 club at 6002. After taking just 5 days to pass through the entire 5000s!

Weekly Pop down 2 to 1272


Medway

Cases 481 - up from 441

Total 18, 855

Pop score up 173 to 6769.

Weekly pop down 50 to 1098.

 

[Nellies left peg]

I've written to my MP to demand country of origin to be available as a filter on UK ecommerce web sites. I don't want to buy ANYTHING from them.

I've bought several things only to find made in China stickers on them. The wife refuses point blank to use the local Chinese restaurant

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

The Sunday bit is the most striking for me. Why would they decide to just take Sunday off? It's literally one of the two days that most will be more likely to be available. Baffling. It should be an around the clock thing. It's literally a matter of life and death.

Edit - just read the rest of the article. Fuck me. Why are they ignoring people literally trained in giving jabs?

Because they are jobsworth idiots weighed down in protocols and bueracracy. They need sacking immediately, but nothing will be done as usual.

 

[twosips]

Because they are jobsworth idiots weighed down in protocols and bueracracy. They need sacking immediately, but nothing will be done as usual.

I'll give it a week before some tory owned new company is founded and handed a big contract to vaccinate loads of people...

 

[GBrannan]

This seems pretty stupid, if true.

I’ll guess that it’s because they can give out multiple, multi million pound contracts to do the job to people/ organisations that have never done it before that strangely have close ties to prominent Tory MPs/ donors.

For previous case studies see Brexit ferries and PPE contracts.

 

[Healdplace]

I can't see many 70/80 year olds turning up in the middle of the night, like I said it's a good politician sound bite, but totally impractical in reality.

I am not (quite!) that old yet but I would try to get there to get a jab.

Indeed there would be less people about and that would be something I might prefer than getting there amongst crowds.

Though I would only go if my brother could drive me there rather than go alone in the middle of the night as I do not drive myself.

That may be something he has not considered. Older women on their own (as many often are) would not just go out in the middle of the night on their own. The virus is less scary in some ways than doing that.

 

[marco]

I've bought several things only to find made in China stickers on them. The wife refuses point blank to use the local Chinese restaurant

lets face it anyway anything you buy from China lasts around a week and its in the bin and im pretty sure this is designed that way because its great for their economy, you buy one it breaks so you buy another in the hope the first was a one off