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WNRH said:
I assume you mean Trump is not normal so how did he get to be president?
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It’ll take a book the length of War and Peace to unravel why that madman got in.

In short... the resentment of the average American in certain areas to the political class.

Hillary being an atrocious candidate didn’t help.

Sprinkle of racism and bigotry.

Gullible people believing the man will make them great again.

That’s a few reasons.
 
domalino said:
The UK media hasn't really pushed this angle of it yet, but this protest/terrorist attack/riot was not spontaneous.

It followed a rally, held by Trump, Don Jr and Giuliani where they pumped them up and incited this attack. Giuliani demanded "trial by contract", Jr. told them to go to war, Trump screamed at them to march on the Capitol and said ‘You Will Never Take Back Our Country With Weakness’.
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weren't there pipe bombs found at the Capitol building? If so thats premeditated - that could only be spontaneous if you got caught up in things on your way back from a shopping trip to " Pipe Bombs Are Us" having maxed the credit card out there.
 

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Look how elected Republicans are dealing with the fallout from last night.

Seesawing between justifying the attack and claiming it was Antifa.
 
kaz7 said:
He got elected because he does good rallies and promised to stick it to washington , he also showed his racist leanings , much more subtlely than he did after he was elected but enough to call for and build a base , dont forget his crooked hiliary line and his catchy slogan, boris borrowed bannon to get him in with his slogan and talking and promising with no intention of following through

Trump was already corrupt but the power has let him be a psycopath and a wanna be despot , he is totally derranged now , nothing he says makes sense or belongs in reality ,that was all there in 2016 but ultimate power has accelerated it
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I agree with all of this apart from this highlighted bit.

I know for a fact “get Brexit done” was and is Dominic Cummings 101.

Cummings isn’t a Bannon man and Boris barely communicated with Bannon.
 
Ban-jani said:
I agree with all of this apart from this highlighted bit.

I know for a fact “get Brexit done” was and is Dominic Cummings 101.

Cummings isn’t a Bannon man and Boris barely communicated with Bannon.
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Mate there is a direct correlation between them. That is a fact. And Cambridge Analytica. These are known facts honestly
 
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wolviedinho said:
I just don’t buy into the notion that it is all Trumps fault. He is a wrecking ball and his approach is chaotic and dangerous but is that not what America voted for? 66 million and now 75 million people? Congress is divided on how to govern.

The media’s portrayal of Trump is the main reason for the hatred IMO. If it was not for his ineptitude response to Covid he would be heading towards a second term.

Anyway it is all opinions and I respect those who do not agree. This thread is informative and I enjoy the debate.
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He’s got some media lapdogs such as Fox but in the main the us media, from what I’ve seen, portray him as he is, a ****
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Mate there is a direct correlation between them. That is a fact. And Cambridge Analytica. These are known facts honestly
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If you’re going to claim Bannon helped Boris’s election campaign you’re going to have to prove it.

If you do I’ll hold my hands up but “get Brexit done” was Cummings and Cummings is a control freak, see Sajid Javid leaving post for not accepting Cummings running his team for him... and certainly not a Trump/Bannon man.

Cummings used social media to win the Brexit campaign, Bannon may have done the same for Trump... but Bannon was not advising Boris in the election.
 
Ban-jani said:
If you’re going to claim Bannon helped Boris’s election campaign you’re going to have to prove it.

If you do I’ll hold my hands up but “get Brexit done” was Cummings and Cummings is a control freak, see Sajid Javid leaving post for not accepting Cummings running his team for him... and certainly not a Trump/Bannon man.

Cummings used social media to win the Brexit campaign, Bannon may have done the same for Trump... but Bannon was not advising Boris in the election.
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Its the other way round. Which means Im not saying that. The dynamic was the other way round. Bannon used the blueprint of Cummins, Farage and all the other bullshitters who used Cambridge Analytica data to spread targeted messaging (lies) to specific persons and groups.
 
Ban-jani said:
If you’re going to claim Bannon helped Boris’s election campaign you’re going to have to prove it.

If you do I’ll hold my hands up but “get Brexit done” was Cummings and Cummings is a control freak, see Sajid Javid leaving post for not accepting Cummings running his team for him... and certainly not a Trump/Bannon man.

Cummings used social media to win the Brexit campaign, Bannon may have done the same for Trump... but Bannon was not advising Boris in the election.
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www.theguardian.com

Video reveals Steve Bannon links to Boris Johnson

Far-right activist claimed he helped with Boris Johnson’s resignation speech as foreign secretary
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Its the other way round. Which means Im not saying that. The dynamic was the other way round. Bannon used the blueprint of Cummins, Farage and all the other bullshitters who used Cambridge Analytica data to spread targeted messaging (lies) to specific persons and groups.
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Well I am sure you can appreciate my post, I responded to a point that Johnson was using Bannon as an aide.
 
SebastianBlue said:
www.theguardian.com

Video reveals Steve Bannon links to Boris Johnson

Far-right activist claimed he helped with Boris Johnson’s resignation speech as foreign secretary
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Saw that earlier mate.

Bannon describes a few texts but not much else.

It was being discussed earlier about how Bannon is a complete charlatan who claims he’s “in” with all these European leaders when in reality, he isn’t.

There’s a populist documentary and he goes around Europe to “advise” political leaders.

The right wing candidates in Austria, Italy and Hungary all ignore him and he even gets chucked out of one country... he basically achieves nothing and meets barely no one, despite him describing himself as changing the world.

He’s either completely delusional or a conman.
 
Ban-jani said:
Saw that earlier mate.

Bannon describes a few texts but not much else.

It was being discussed earlier about how Bannon is a complete charlatan who claims he’s “in” with all these European leaders when in reality, he isn’t.

There’s a populist documentary and he goes around Europe to “advise” political leaders.

The right wing candidates in Austria, Italy and Hungary all ignore him and he even gets chucked out of one country... he basically achieves nothing and meets barely no one, despite him describing himself as changing the world.

He’s either completely delusional or a conman.
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Why not both?

And to your other points, I largely agree, but even allow meetings with Bannon is a disqualifying feature for me, hence why I still think this is relevant.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Why not both?

And to your other points, I largely agree, but even allow meetings with Bannon is a disqualifying feature for me, hence why I still think this is relevant.
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Well yeah he is both to be fair.

Regarding his involvement in UK politics, it wasn’t been meetings they were having, I read something recently they spoke once over the phone and exchanged texts but it didnt go anywhere.

There’s no way Cummings would have had Bannon involved, the man is a control freak and would have ran the entire thing.
 
Ban-jani said:
Well yeah he is both to be fair.

Regarding his involvement in UK politics, it wasn’t been meetings they were having, I read something recently they spoke once over the phone and exchanged texts but it didnt go anywhere.

There’s no way Cummings would have had Bannon involved, the man is a control freak and would have ran the entire thing.
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My take, purely based on the short clip, is that somehow, Bannon managed to speak to Johnson who very quickly got rid of him and any further "discussions" were Bannon desperately trying to get some sort of relationship going.
Seriously, "It's just easier to communicate by text". Do me a fucking lemon.
That has chancer written all over it.
 
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