Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Thanks...just wondering what detritus dwells at the bottom of the lungs.
The coagulation of this stuff does feel rather symbolic & perhaps an emancipation from the more nefarious aspects of this horrendous disease.
 
somapop said:
Just a few quick question:

the doc used a stethoscope on my lungs yesterday & although no pneumonia detected he did say they were rattling with ‘covid crap’. What would this actually be? Mucus? Shedded viruses?

As of this morning I’m actually coughing up mucus for the first time rather than dry
coughing. Feels like a bit of a relief.
Christ I look awful though....like the ghost of the vagabond Ian Beale crossed with a Ringwraith....
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Ive been ill since about 4th of Jan. Thought I'd got away with the lung side of things but just started to feel short of breath and have a dry cough since yesterday.
 
somapop said:
My covid clinic appt didn’t happen as the computer systems went down (?) apparently.
Fortunately my GP who arranged it stopped by my flat after he’d finished at the surgery. I’ve been seen by him a number of times over the years abs always liked him.
No pneumonia but chest ‘rattling with crap from covid’ nothing to be concerned about and using the oximeter gave a reading of 95, which I’m presuming is ok (anything under 92 a concern).
Also said if I were to walk down the stairs of the flats it would probably kill me which was spot on given I’d tried to yesterday....and it did nearly kill me.
Advised to get some fresh air on the hour (I hadn’t as I’ve been so cold). Should hopefully see some much better recovery by the weekend & hopefully full return to work Monday.
Perhaps psychological but I do feel a bit perkier this evening (I took a shower which helped).
Feet are still throbbing (no red blotches) & I have this phantom ‘hot oil in oven’ smell haunting me.
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The German health services send nurses out to older folks who are ill to check Oxygen Levels - an attempt to reduce Sepsis in the community. It has worked well in the pandemic as oxygen levels often drop dangerously low 2 or 3 days before serious Covid-19 symptoms and early hosoital treatment when this symptom occurs often prevents death.
For the life of me I don't understand why other countries haven't also put this in place.
 
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Here is some regional data from the NHS about the England regions and how covid positive patient numbers have risen in the month since just before Christmas.

last 4 weeks v most recent 7 days

London up 196% v 3%

South East up 136% v 0.3%

East up 136% v 1.6%

South West up 119% v 26%

Midlands up 85% v 15%

North West up 83% v 20%

North East & Yorks up 45% v 12%

This matches the way case numbers have been rising and supports just how well NE & Yorkshire are doing as I noted earlier today from other data.


If you look though at just the past week or so in the second numbers you see that the slow down was much more dramatic in the southern areas percentage wise apart from the South West which is not doing as well proportionately as the South East or East or London.

And up North the North West has had the least impact of the drop off - only the South West being more. Though it is rising less than it was as is everywhere.

Whereas - whilst also not doing as well proportionately as the home county regions - the Midlands and to a lesser degree the NE/Yorkshire region is still having some increase in hospital numbers. Though again less.





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cleavers said:
Look at the actual numbers.....View attachment 8570

....falling, though I guess like other data the last 2 are weekend data.
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My friend who is running a vaccination clinic at a group surgery says this is down to not starting 70+ year olds before completing 80+ year olds.
NHS command and control jobs worthery if you ask me not wanting sucessful regions to get to far ahead of regions that aren't doing so well.
I guess we will see if this is the case by this weekend when 70+ jabbery gets a shift on.
 
BlueAnorak said:
My friend who is running a vaccination clinic at a group surgery says this is down to not starting 70+ year olds before completing 80+ year olds.
NHS command and control jobs worthery if you ask me not wanting sucessful regions to get to far ahead of regions that aren't doing so well.
I guess we will see if this is the case by this weekend when 70+ jabbery gets a shift on.
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My mum is still in her 70's last week, and has had her first, so it's not happening like that everywhere.
 
Total cases from the three nations today: 3844 v 4627 last week.

Total deaths with just out of England hospitals to be added 1185 v 1178 last week.
 
Blu3m00n91 said:
I don’t understand how we can be getting so many cases/deaths. There is no mass gatherings, everything is shut almost. I don’t believe people are catching covid from walking outside
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The new variant is 50% more infectious.
You catch it bring it home, spread it to family members and if initially asymptomatic those infected take it out to their school/work place and start the cycle again.
Previously if one family member caught it then there was a lower chance of other people in the household catching it.
Now most family members catch it, children 12-15 can spread it to others better (higher viral load) and over a two week period whole households and their families are now catch it rather than one or possibly two family members previously.
What used to work no longer does. The only way it could have been stopped was to close schools the day after the new strain was identified as s threat (18th December). They didn't. I don't think any alternative government would either. SAGE certainly weren't calling for it.
Case numbers are still too high and with 40% of kids still in school, and sadly, I can't see the numbers dramatically falling
 
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BlueAnorak said:
The only way it could have been stopped was to close schools the day after the new strain was identified as s threat (18th December). They didn't. I don't think any alternative government would either. SAGE certainly weren't calling for it.
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The govt at that point were not merely keeping schools open, they were actively preventing them from closing under threat of legal action.

SAGE did indeed advise drastic action on 22nd Dec.
Population level approaches to further reduce contact between people are likely to be necessary, such as extending Tier 4; changing the operation of schools/ universities; travel restrictions between regions and internationally; and/or introducing a national lockdown (high confidence).

www.gov.uk

SAGE meetings, December 2020

Minutes and papers from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) meetings held in December 2020.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

The govt instead left some Christmas relaxations in place, left shops open through the sales and restaurants in a large slice of the country.

It's been estimated as many as 30,000 people may die as a result.
 
1820 deaths. The lower end of the baked in death numbers from cases recorded 3 weeks ago but still bad and they aren't going to fall for a week or so.
With 40%+ of kids still going to school the case numbers are not going to come down quickly either.
 
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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Ive been ill since about 4th of Jan. Thought I'd got away with the lung side of things but just started to feel short of breath and have a dry cough since yesterday.
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Blimey mate...hope this is the last of it for you.
BlueAnorak said:
The German health services send nurses out to older folks who are ill to check Oxygen Levels - an attempt to reduce Sepsis in the community. It has worked well in the pandemic as oxygen levels often drop dangerously low 2 or 3 days before serious Covid-19 systems and early hosoital treatment when this symptom occurs often prevents death.
For the life of me I don't understand why other countries haven't also put this in place.
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Absolutely, especially with the risk of silent hypoxia.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
The govt at that point were not merely keeping schools open, they were actively preventing them from closing under threat of legal action.

SAGE did indeed advise drastic action on 22nd Dec.
Population level approaches to further reduce contact between people are likely to be necessary, such as extending Tier 4; changing the operation of schools/ universities; travel restrictions between regions and internationally; and/or introducing a national lockdown (high confidence).

www.gov.uk

SAGE meetings, December 2020

Minutes and papers from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) meetings held in December 2020.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

The govt instead left some Christmas relaxations in place, left shops open through the sales and restaurants in a large slice of the country.

It's been estimated as many as 30,000 people may die as a result.
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All schools had closed by the end of the 22nd December. Also we have seen from other stats, Christmas baubles didn't spread the virus as predicted as people were generally sensible.
 
My Dad just got his call up for the vaccine. getting it tomorrow afternoon. No sign of my Mum getting one yet. its all very odd, very close age and while my Dad has a bad heart my mum has COPD so you'd expect them at similar times.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Christmas baubles didn't spread the virus as predicted as people were generally sensible.
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You can't possibly know that, as you don't know what would have happened had they *not* been in place.

I assume you mean Dec 22nd for schools...
 
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