Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Blue Llama]

Did you report them?

No.
They maybe idiots but they are neighbours.
Police wouldn't be interested in such small numbers.
In the end it doesn't matter what others do we keep well away from anyone when we are out, mask up and sanitizer stupidly often.

 

[cleavers]

REGIONAL SCOREBOARD SUMMARY

With today's huge reduction in cases nationally a lot of falls - but unfortunately not much of one in the North West.

This region is now fast becoming the big area of concern. Down just 515 - compared with nearly 2000 in London and 1600 or so in the East.

Even Yorkshire fell 308 to just 2236 compared with the North West's 7156.

The North West has in fact today had MORE cases than the East which only had 6979.

Two weeks ago the NW had 1618 cases to the East's 5042.

As you can see the epicentre is clearly heading here.

I don't trust the numbers any more huge rises and falls daily, who knows what the true numbers are, and why thee wild fluctuations ? 10000+/- a day suggests they're just not getting the results back quickly enough. Same with "cases by specimen date" though, huge daily fluctuations, and yet nobody explains why ? (obviously some of the public holidays account for some smaller specimen dates but not all).

 

[Stoned Rose]

A new public awareness campaign has been launched, urging people to "stay at home" in an attempt to encourage the public to comply with lockdown rules.

It comes amid growing fears that people have not been observing social distancing rules, as case numbers surge, hospitals become swamped and deaths continue to rise.

COVID-19: Ad campaign launched with plea to public as fears grow over lockdown compliance

The prime minister warns coronavirus cases are soaring at an "alarming rate" and that hospitals are under extreme pressure.

news.sky.com

Behind again , where was this a few weeks ago

The campaign should really be renamed to the "stay at home unless you want to go and stand in a queue at an asymptomatic testing centre with hundreds of people from your area cos that's alright " campaign.

 

[cleavers]

More people working not from home compared to the first lockdown more people using public transport compared to the first lockdown, places of religious worship open etc.

I don't know where they are seeing this "more people using public transport". I overlook a station with trains in and out of London, and they're deserted, at most a few are on them, and they're still running full length trains, which is baffling. All our buses in the town are pretty much empty, still running normalish timetables, and rarely more than 1 or 2.

 

[mosssideblue]

No.
They maybe idiots but they are neighbours.
Police wouldn't be interested in such small numbers.
In the end it doesn't matter what others do we keep well away from anyone when we are out, mask up and sanitizer stupidly often.

Until people are prepared to report these things, we will continue to struggle.

They potentially could kill someone as a result of their get together, neighbour or not.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It does seem something of a postcode lottery - and I mean that simply as a statement of fact - no politics

My area - Wokingham -(concerned for my wife's parents) are only just starting. My dad in Shaw had his 1st jab before Xmas - and his 2nd one is tomorrow

I agree.

And I think that is wrong. This is not a political point, i.e. not a party political one anyway, so hopefully allowable and not a discussion which might spiral into a slanging match.

But I cannot understand why anyone thinks it acceptable that the 67m population of the UK have to put up with differing standards of education, social welfare, health and god knows what else, simply based upon where they live. IMO we are all UK citizens, all subject to the same tax regimes and we should all be provided with identical levels of public services. Or core public services such as healthcare, at the very least.

To me, it is completely unacceptable that if you are fortunate to live in a rich area with few social welfare demands, you get brilliant public services, but if you live in a poor area where there are many demands upon resources, the care you get is shite. It's just wrong. IMO.

 

[artfuldodger]

I don't know where they are seeing this "more people using public transport". I overlook a station with trains in and out of London, and they're deserted, at most a few are on them, and they're still running full length trains, which is baffling. All our buses in the town are pretty much empty, still running normalish timetables, and rarely more than 1 or 2.

I agree. Our local railway station, a 11 minute journey into manchester, used to be dangerously busy on the platform between 7.30 and 8.30 am. No one there now.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Bristol hospitals have been admitting London patients, they have been airlifted in daily for the past 2 weeks.

Doesn't sit well with me, guess our failures with the NHS are going to hit home now and it'll be people in less prevalent, lower income areas who catch it because it's brought in from places like London who will suffer most when their local capacity which is for them first and foremost is taken away from them.

It's not a criticism of trying to help whoever we can, it's a criticism of how we've ended up needing to do this.

 

[Healdplace]

Greater Manchester Summary

Sadly it is GM for the second day running that is now becoming the problem.

Cases have risen more in GM than anywhere else in the region and only 53 of the 515 fall in NW numbers (itself a lower than average regional fall today) were from GM

As a result the GM % of the NW total rose to 31% - a ten day high. And the fourth daily increase on the run from 22%.

Lowest score anywhere 146, Five boroughs over 200 again. Manchester down but in the 400s.

The same really struggling boroughs are the problem as I have been noting in the more detailed reports each evening.

Wigan - another huge score. Trafford another record score even worse proportionately than Stockport that also stayed over 200.

Why what long were the three lowest GM boroughs that have always been the three that were considered for exclusion when the rest of GM were put into higher tiers and in the case of Wigan and Stockport actually were excluded briefly have now become the three big problems when the previous places that were driving the peaks in the autumn - such as Oldham and Rochdale - have become the best performers - is a question someone needs to be investigating if we are to get this under control.

Is it that they just have more people to infect there having been low over the pandemic? Maybe but that is not so of Wigan for sure.

Is it that the new variant is most widespread there?

Is it a Christmas shopping factor?

Whatever - unless we get a grip on this GM is heading only one way right now.

To becoming where Merseyside has been for past few weeks.

And that will be very disturbing as they are also still up there with even bigger numbers than GM - just not rising any more and at a plateau GM really does not want to get up to as it will be a very long way down.

And the sequel to it will be many more GM deaths in February.

 

[unicorn]

Me neither, the only person to have touched my sanitizer is me, I take one in my pocket wherever I go, same with wipes, if I wipe down a supermarket trolley it's with my own wipes.

Asda near me in Sheff have no touch sanitizer; Mrs and me won't touch one of the santizing machines in the big Morrisons.