Villa (H) Post Match Thread

I've never known so many mistakes by a commentary team.

1) savage getting his facts wrong at half time.
2)commentator kept saying gundogan has scored, when it was silva.
3)mc pointy, kept saying the header was going wide anyway, as if that had anything to do with it!.
4)commentator saying great clearance from Stones,when it was DIAS.
I bet there is more as well.
There are. The clown continually called Cancelo "Cansella" and Zinchenko "Zinchenka". That's the first rule of commentary: the only commentators allowed to mispronounce names in football history have been Mick Channon and Ron Atkinson.
 
What is going on here, that rule has existed for years and Rodri didn't really do anything special. I thought everyone knew that once the defender controls the ball, the play resets? Strikers have been trying to exploit that since forever, but it's hard to exploit and it's more down to Mings completely fucking up than Rodri taking advantage. He was literally just jogging back form an offside position and saw that Mings had cocked up.

Villa defended quite well, we had at least 5 chances that would have been a goal on any other day. The weather didn't help and obviously they have had a long rest, so there was no chance of them tiring out. I thought Bernardo wasn't having a great game until he started to come alive when KDB went off, felt like the old Bernardo when he realised he needed to step up while KDB was out.

I don't think Bernardo is the false 9 answer, i much prefer Ferran in that role tbh.
 
Has any media outlet mentioned how on earth Grealish wasn't at least yellow carded for any of his multiple assaults on several of our players yet (forcing two of them off the pitch), or are they still crying about a goal that was allowed to stand because the laws of the game say that there was nothing wrong with it?
They are crying because we won.
 
I found it incredible that Peter Walton did not know the off side law but then again he is part of the PL training department. For all Moss's faults at least he knew the law.

Then to say it shouldn't be a pen because the header was not on target. Beggars belief.

Also, the persistent fouling law appears to have changed. I counted 7 by Grealish without a card or even a talking to. In my day you were told to talk to the player on 3 fouls, caution on 4 and 2nd yellow for next offence.
 
What was different to most of our games, is that Villa actually meant to win the game, not having a mindset on damage limitation. Over the years, a handful of teams, RM, Barca, Juve rags BM have reached the point where teams mentally write a game off against them, plan for 0-0 and even going behind does not change things. Villa were on the back foot for most of the game simply because they had no choice, not as a tactic. Made for a cracking game, just a shame the furore over Bernies goal has taken all the head-lines
 
In the clear light of day and the offside law staring us in the face with its carefully crafted black and white phrases, is there anyone still calling offside? Any pro or ex-pro still quoting offside must, one, not be able to read, two, incapable of understanding what has been explained, or three, hasn't had it explained and suffers from never understanding it in the first place. Where's CamelGob this morning?
 
Rodri gained 20 odd yards on Mings before he touched the ball. He was in the perfect position to dispossess him due to the run he had made from an offside position.

My argument isn’t that Rodri was offside because the law states he clearly wasn’t, it’s that the law should change so Rodri should be offside.
But the LotG don't require a player in an offside position to stay where he is and allow an opponent an untrammeled 'go' at the ball. Rodri's offside position is deleted out of existence the moment Mings plays the ball! Had Mings the foresight to let Rodri run up to him, not chest the ball and bingo, Rodri is caught offside! But that didn't happen! And for once I must give IronLung Jonny five stars!
 
In the clear light of day and the offside law staring us in the face with its carefully crafted black and white phrases, is there anyone still calling offside? Any pro or ex-pro still quoting offside must, one, not be able to read, two, incapable of understanding what has been explained, or three, hasn't had it explained and suffers from never understanding it in the first place. Where's CamelGob this morning?
Just Dean Smith
 
In the clear light of day and the offside law staring us in the face with its carefully crafted black and white phrases, is there anyone still calling offside? Any pro or ex-pro still quoting offside must, one, not be able to read, two, incapable of understanding what has been explained, or three, hasn't had it explained and suffers from never understanding it in the first place. Where's CamelGob this morning?
He's trying to decide whether your points 1 or 2 apply to himself without realising that it's actually both. So will keep him confused for a couple of days I'd have thought.
 
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I found it incredible that Peter Walton did not know the off side law but then again he is part of the PL training department. For all Moss's faults at least he knew the law.

Then to say it shouldn't be a pen because the header was not on target. Beggars belief.

Also, the persistent fouling law appears to have changed. I counted 7 by Grealish without a card or even a talking to. In my day you were told to talk to the player on 3 fouls, caution on 4 and 2nd yellow for next offence.
The fact that Walton actually had to refer to the ‘rules’ as opposed to his ‘opinion’ tells you all you need to know about that plank.

And then for McPointy to suggest the header was going wide prior to the handball is superfluous. It’s handball. If it’s handball in any other area of the pitch, it’s handball. The fact that it’s in the penalty area is tough. That’s the rule. Handball in the penalty area is punished by giving a penalty away. Or are we just making rules/opinions up as we go along now???
 
Rodri gained 20 odd yards on Mings before he touched the ball. He was in the perfect position to dispossess him due to the run he had made from an offside position.

My argument isn’t that Rodri was offside because the law states he clearly wasn’t, it’s that the law should change so Rodri should be offside.
i know what you're driving at but what if Rodri had come from 20 yards square onside, closed him down and won the ball. Why does his initial position with respect to the last defender make a difference to him 'gaining' an advantage?
 

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