Coronavirus (2021) thread

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gazinho said:
Mrs Gaz been pinged off that test and trace app saying she's got to stay at home for 10 days, just spoke to my next door neighbour (from a distance) and it's them who have tested positive. Mrs Gaz hasn't been out anywhere so it's 100% because they've tested positive, not sure covid can travel through walls but I think our bedroom is next to theirs so their phone must be near her phone at night.

Any thoughts on whether you lot think she should isolate or not?
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I got pinged whilst being pretty sure I wouldn't have caught it. I took the approach that I may be wrong, asymptomatic, not know it and infect people particularly with the Kent variant in play. Also you can be fined £1,000 if you ignore the app. If she's not going anywhere anyway then why not isolate?
 
Matt Hancock claims the UK are giving 200 vaccinations per minute. On the 19th the number of vaccinations given were 343,163 (1st dose) and 3,759 (2nd dose) a total of 346,922 vaccinations.

At 200 per minute that means it took 28.9 hours to complete the vaccinations in a 24 hour day. I am continuing to take all government statistics with a liberal helping of salt.
 
BlueAnorak said:
England's lockdown failing to drive down Covid-19 cases, major survey shows

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OK its over a week old but it's no surprise. PHE weekly reports indicate there are problems that are not being addressed.
- Schools are open for 40% of pupils. To high I'm afraid with this new stain. 50% increase in viral load in children aged 12-14.
- Major increase of cases in Supermarkets. The vendors are talking the talk but not walking the talk. They are simply complaining about abuse and not doing anything about Covidiots and Ventilation.
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I was in Stetford tesco yesterday that had reopened after have go close due to a covid cases. It was pretty empty but there was no security checking on masks when I went in, the sanitizer at the trolleys was empty and they had no cashiers on meaning everyone had to go through the self checkouts. This is in stark contrast to how it was a few months ago where we had to queue to get in, were given a squirt of sanitizer and our trolleys wiped down.

My wife was in there a few days before it shut and they only had two checkouts open and they were next to each other.

At one point I went to ask a member of staff a question and must have got too close because she panicked and asked me to step back. So mark me in the covidiot column as well
 
Healdplace said:
Scotland update:

89 deaths - it was 64 last week

1636 cases - it was 1707 last week

This was at 7.0% positive.

Patients 2004 - up 1 - it was 1829 last week

Ventilator icu 161 - up 5 - it was 142 last week.
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Thanks as always. Happy to note that the 7% is also a decrease from 8.4% last Thursday.

Hopefully we never see cases above 2000 again - if we avoid it tomorrow (Friday tends to be a higher number day, last week was 2160), then *hopefully* that may come true. Then aim for the same with 1500, 1000 and so on. Small goals but where progress is measurable and achievable.

Also - hospital figures seem to be slowing a bit maybe, early days to confirm that but would be most welcome.
 
Wales data

46 deaths - last week 54

1153 cases - last week 1644

At 8.8% positivity

The Weekly Pop number falls again to 281. It was 285 yesterday.

Oldham at 296 is the lowest in Greater Manchester so overall Wales is doing well right now
 
Wales vaccination update

Total vaccinations 190. 435..... 396 are second shots.

Yesterday there were 14, 619 .....26 of them second shots.

That is a few hundred up on the 14,000 or so given Tuesday.
 
Healdplace said:
By the way Hancock this morning told MPs that 4.6 million vaccinations have now been given.

And that 63% of care home residents in England have been.

It is better than it was but well behind the 93% I think was the last figure given for Scotland.
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What's the breakdown of residential care homes/residents per country? I'd imagine it's at least 10 to 1.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I agree mate. Greater adherence to the current rules would probably make the biggest difference to get us through the worst if this wave until the population is vaccinated.

Hopefully, the number of cases are now falling but it’s unlikely (IMHO) that the official Covid case figures adequately reflect the prevalence of Covid in the working population, especially when 40% to 50% of infected people are asymptomatic or have very mild systems where the person doesn’t realise they need to be tested. That is exacerbated when people who know they have Covid don’t let work colleagues or friends know about it.

I am confident that we will get out of this through vaccination and we will be in a far better place after Easter, but we will be looking at a lot more damage in the meantime if a significant minority ignore the rules or they aren’t straight with contacts at work and elsewhere.
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I'm risking making a political discussion here, but I feel this is where the govt have a chance to make a difference.

They have been advised on measures that would likely help increase the number of people who ought to get tested doing so, and to increase the percentage of people who do test positive going on to isolate safely as is neccessary if we are to drive down cases.

Stick - enforcement, messaging to the public and bosses.

Carrot - helping cover financially, and providing other benefits that make it more comfortable and managable.

Many ideas had been researched & floated by advisors, civil servants, SAGE & Others.

I think Boris' famed optimism overlaps with a bit of 'don't do it & risk a bit of a failure unless you absolutely have to', and Tory squeamishness at doing things like giving people - anyone - a quick cash boost, or giving everyone Netflix. The studies report these things would pay for themselves easily. Ideological aversion to the morality of 'providing' for people should be put aside in this time of great need and peril.
 
According to a graph in the Telegraph if we do 2 million vaccinations a week (we are near that point now) we will have reached the 'herd immunity' inoculation level of 70% vaccinated by mid June.

If there even is such a thing with this virus and if the vaccines work and if you forget all the ones who have had it anyway without knowing they had the virus which we know is in total a minimum of 10% because Merythr in Wales and a few places in the NW any day now have reached that level just from numbers testing positive there over the past 10 months.
 
Bluemoon dan said:
Glastonbury cancelled. Going to be another long summer with no events on.
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Yep I read an article at the start of the year saying 2020 would be a tea party compared to this year and sadly I think it's true.
There will be no events, no holidays, no gym at all this year. I've wrote the year off completely, it's not being pessimistic it's being realistic. I had a a holiday booked for October but I've cancelled it today.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Yep I read an article at the start of the year saying 2020 would be a tea party compared to this year and sadly I think it's true.
There will be no events, no holidays, no gym at all this year. I've wrote the year off completely, it's not being pessimistic it's being realistic. I had a a holiday booked for October but I've cancelled it today.
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That is an overly pessimistic outlook.

Unless you think the vaccine will be completely useless, there's no reason to think the entire year will be written off.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Yep I read an article at the start of the year saying 2020 would be a tea party compared to this year and sadly I think it's true.
There will be no events, no holidays, no gym at all this year. I've wrote the year off completely, it's not being pessimistic it's being realistic. I had a a holiday booked for October but I've cancelled it today.
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You’re a proper ray of sunshine mate, lol. Cheer up, try to do some positive things. Whether youre being realistic or not it’s not healthy to be a glass half empty all the time.
 
mrbelfry said:
I got pinged whilst being pretty sure I wouldn't have caught it. I took the approach that I may be wrong, asymptomatic, not know it and infect people particularly with the Kent variant in play. Also you can be fined £1,000 if you ignore the app. If she's not going anywhere anyway then why not isolate?
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Fair enough and I understand completely where you're coming from but its impossible for her to have caught it from the time she was pinged, she's now having to have a week and a half off work on SSP and wont be able to go and care for her 86 year old grandma this weekend.

Money isn't the issue nor is the care for her grandma as at a push I can go and do that it was more the inconvenience of it all, granted not as inconvenient as having covid etc
 
domalino said:
That is an overly pessimistic outlook.

Unless you think the vaccine will be completely useless, there's no reason to think the entire year will be written off.
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Maybe yes you may be right, however I don't buy into the optimism shown by some.
Time and time again Boris has given dates when we should get back to "normal" and he's been wrong, he said Christmas, February and now Easter, all are wrong. The government's handling of it has been awful and I blame them for a lot of the shit that's happening. I hope they get sacked off soon. We have been shown up by other countries big time.
 
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