#9 | Gabriel Jesus - 2020/21 Performances

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Nope. I used the fact I've watched him, and seen how he completely lacks in confidence and doesn't appear to be improving in front of goal, to explain why Jesus remains a topic for discussion. I used his stats to back up my argument.
So you’ve watched him, like the rest of us, and that makes you the authority?

You also used a collation of data from this year to try and reinforce the point, as the previous 3 seasons clearly indicate you’re talking shite....

And the reason it remains a topic of discussion is because you can’t comprehend the differing label of ‘striker’, especially the way Jesus plays the game.... “offside? Shit”, “can’t head? Shit?”
“Misses too many chances? Shit” etc etc
 
So you’ve watched him, like the rest of us, and that makes you the authority?

You also used a collation of data from this year to try and reinforce the point, as the previous 3 seasons clearly indicate you’re talking shite....

And the reason it remains a topic of discussion is because you can’t comprehend the differing label of ‘striker’, especially the way Jesus plays the game.... “offside? Shit”, “can’t head? Shit?”
“Misses too many chances? Shit” etc etc
I think when he arrived he promised more than he has delivered in terms of goal scoring particularly so this season when the opportunity to take centre stage arose.
I rate him very highly but clearly he is not likely to challenge Kun's goal record during what ever time he has left with us.
I never feel when he is on the pitch that he is the one who will score the vital goal to turn a game. Indeed you often get the feeling that if a chance falls his way he will squander it.
That said the many positive attributes attached to his game more than make up for this limitation and I am usually more than glad to see his name on the team sheet. A player who has contributed a lot since he arrived but never another Aquero.
 
Taken from City`s Official site

Best minutes per goal record in Premier League history: Up to and including 27th July 2020.

1. Sergio Aguero

Total goals: 180
Total minutes: 19,177
Minutes per goal: 106.5

2. Harry Kane
Total goals: 143
Total minutes: 17,175
Minutes per goal: 120.1

3. Thierry Henry
Total goals: 175
Total minutes: 21, 280
Minutes per goal: 121.6

4. Mohamed Salah
Total goals: 75
Total minutes: 9,554
Minutes per goal: 127.3

5. Ruud van Nistelrooy
Total goals: 95
Total minutes: 12,135
Minutes per goal: 127.3

6. Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
Total goals: 54
Total minutes: 6,913
Minutes per goal: 128

7. Gabriel Jesus
Total goals: 41
Total minutes: 5,338
Minutes per goal: 130.1

8. Luis Suarez
Total goals: 69
Total minutes: 9,556
Minutes per goal: 138.4

9. Robin van Persie
Total goals: 144
Total minutes: 20,047
Minutes per goal: 139.2

10. Hernan Crespo
Total goals: 20
Total minutes: 2,796
Minutes per goal: 139.8
 
He was better when he got here , he does give a lot to the team, that is true , however he still has a scoring job to do , sergio has been out what feels like a year , he has had plenty of time to fill the striking void
It feels like it's been coached out of him. He's one of the biggest examples of a confidence player I've seen. He looks overwhelmed with all that's being asked of him and it's affecting his finishing. However, lets not forget he's scored some very important goals against Madrid, Liverpool, Southampton etc. He's still young and has a good G&A rate. He'll be fine, and if he becomes a LW or Second Striker, that's fine.
 
It feels like it's been coached out of him. He's one of the biggest examples of a confidence player I've seen. He looks overwhelmed with all that's being asked of him and it's affecting his finishing. However, lets not forget he's scored some very important goals against Madrid, Liverpool, Southampton etc. He's still young and has a good G&A rate. He'll be fine, and if he becomes a LW or Second Striker, that's fine.


I think he is trying too hard. It happens especially when we have a goal scoring freak on our books like Sergio. Jesus, this 23 year old young man has a hard act to follow. Hopefully he`ll achieve a greater consistency and calmness for his sake and ours.
 
So you’ve watched him, like the rest of us, and that makes you the authority?

You also used a collation of data from this year to try and reinforce the point, as the previous 3 seasons clearly indicate you’re talking shite....

And the reason it remains a topic of discussion is because you can’t comprehend the differing label of ‘striker’, especially the way Jesus plays the game.... “offside? Shit”, “can’t head? Shit?”
“Misses too many chances? Shit” etc etc
And you are the authority of whether or not fans are allowed to discuss this? It's my opinion mate. Obviously! That's what you get on a forum, discussions, opinions...

If you don't like this thread, which your angry little rants suggest you do not, go to another, thread mate. Life's too short to get yourself all worked up and upset.
 
It feels like it's been coached out of him. He's one of the biggest examples of a confidence player I've seen. He looks overwhelmed with all that's being asked of him and it's affecting his finishing. However, lets not forget he's scored some very important goals against Madrid, Liverpool, Southampton etc. He's still young and has a good G&A rate. He'll be fine, and if he becomes a LW or Second Striker, that's fine.

Does he work to hard? He puts a shift in every game - a lot of his goals have come from the bench when other teams are tired and he will run them to death. But maybe that doesnt work when he starts.

Sergio hobbles about when there is nothing on - as soon as there is a sniff of a goal he springs to life. Does he need to be a bit more of that in his game?
 
I like Jesus (ignore wanker comment; ) but I think he needs to ride challenges better and stop doing down so easily and remonstrating to refs like he's been hard done by. Sat on his arse gesticulating with puppy dog eyes, get up and get on with it Gabby lad! Silva and Aguero tried it on soon after they joined but soon learned there's nowt down for playacting to con refs in this league, unless you play for rags or dippers, but that's another matter.

I think needs he needs to man up and develop a steely 'fuck you' gritty mettle about him and focus assertively towards scoring. I don't know if Pep is instructing him to drift left but I think he'd be better off watching a few videos of Jimmy greaves and Shearer to see how they used to score goals for fun from in and around the box. I have previously said he's a 'tap in merchant' and I stand by that(mostly) because a great striker needs to be more selfish and shoot on sight of goal with conviction from half chances, particularly against parked bus sides.

He's very much a confidence player and the best strikers make their own luck when the chips are down. He needs to step up and be counted and I'd love nothing better than seeing him score a hat trick against Cheltenham as it would give him the belief he is currently lacking within himself.

His stats are good but many of those goals are team goals when we're winning easily. I want to see him become a player who can put his foot through the ball Jimmy Floyd hasselbaink style and bladder it into the net!
 
a lot of his goals have come from the bench when other teams are tired and he will run them to death. But maybe that doesnt work when he starts.

Not really true at all, it's one of the weird myths around Jesus people keep repeating.

As a starter he's scored 65 in 100 (47 in 67 in the league).

As a substitute he's got 7 goals in 64.
 
Not really true at all, it's one of the weird myths around Jesus people keep repeating.

As a starter he's scored 65 in 100 (47 in 67 in the league).

As a substitute he's got 7 goals in 64.

I guess the fact he has played 164 games and 64 as a sub gives that impression. I stand corrected.
 
That's the same nonsense that Liverpool spout about Firmino to justify his existence. Jesus is no different to him - A player who started well, but is no longer living up to expectations and is living off the odd goal.

Like Firmino, PL defenders simply aren't worried by or about Jesus. He's got a big heart,but lacks any real presence

Didn't Liverpool win the league and CL with Firmino as a starter?

Bet they are wish they had Danny Ings instead...
 
All our forwards are scoring less goals. This is due to a few things, they are taking less shots because defences are more packed(regularly come up against 5 at the back)and as you seen vs Palace teams still parking the bus when losing. Couple that with less creativity from our midfield and wings(we miss Dave)
We have scored 1 goal from the 6 yard box this season. Joint least in the league with the bottom 3 and Wolves. Last season we finished with 22, most in the league by 6. So we're about 10 goals off the pace from there alone, a position where Sterling usually thrives. I can't remember any goals where we've got to the oppo byline and cut it across for a tap-in?
Also, half way through the season and Kev has set-up 50% of our assisted goals compared to assisting 29% last year.
The fact Kev has had almost double the amount of shots in the league than anyone else in the team and only Sterling has had more than Gundo(who has almost had more shots in the box(18) than he did last two seasons combined(24) - 13 appearances vs 62) points to there being less opportunity to shoot for our players in advanced positions and instead we are relying on our mids.

Basically Gabby is not the issue with our team in the final 3rd, it's the lack of creativity outside of Kev. We are struggling vs the packed defences of the league as when you look at the more open champs league we are scoring and creating plenty. A new striker wouldn't change it either.
 
All our forwards are scoring less goals. This is due to a few things, they are taking less shots because defences are more packed(regularly come up against 5 at the back)and as you seen vs Palace teams still parking the bus when losing. Couple that with less creativity from our midfield and wings(we miss Dave)
We have scored 1 goal from the 6 yard box this season. Joint least in the league with the bottom 3 and Wolves. Last season we finished with 22, most in the league by 6. So we're about 10 goals off the pace from there alone, a position where Sterling usually thrives. I can't remember any goals where we've got to the oppo byline and cut it across for a tap-in?
Also, half way through the season and Kev has set-up 50% of our assisted goals compared to assisting 29% last year.
The fact Kev has had almost double the amount of shots in the league than anyone else in the team and only Sterling has had more than Gundo(who has almost had more shots in the box(18) than he did last two seasons combined(24) - 13 appearances vs 62) points to there being less opportunity to shoot for our players in advanced positions and instead we are relying on our mids.

Basically Gabby is not the issue with our team in the final 3rd, it's the lack of creativity outside of Kev. We are struggling vs the packed defences of the league as when you look at the more open champs league we are scoring and creating plenty. A new striker wouldn't change it either.
Great post, IMO.
 
One of the main problems I have with him, is barring Liverpool and Madrid, he scores against cannon fodder.

I’d rarely, if ever, expect him to pull it out of the bag in the rather big games. Of course there’s a place for goals against the lower table teams, lord knows we’ve struggled at times, but that suggests to me that as a goal scorer and game changer, he’s not going to cut it.
 
Yet another poor performance from our Brazilian no9.
But...
1.his work rate was amazing
2.he didn’t get any service
3.he’s not a striker
4.he was unlucky when he hit the post
5.his off the ball movement was incredible
6.he’s recovering from COVID-19
7.he’s not Sergio stop comparing him to Sergio.
8.he needs more time
Feel free to borrow one of the above .
 
Yet another poor performance from our Brazilian no9.
But...
1.his work rate was amazing
2.he didn’t get any service
3.he’s not a striker
4.he was unlucky when he hit the post
5.his off the ball movement was incredible
6.he’s recovering from COVID-19
7.he’s not Sergio stop comparing him to Sergio.
8.he needs more time
Feel free to borrow one of the above .
Just isn’t the required level to take over from Sergi. He and Mahrez waste so many chances
 
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