Coronavirus (2021) thread

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marco said:
anyone know what quantity of vaccine stock we have and expected delivery of more supplies
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Good question because I think the vaccine rate is controlled by supply as this is what the ministers and NHS officials say and I can't see why they would mislead us. I believe they have said the UK has the supply in the UK to meet the mid-Feb target but all the vaccine has to be 'filled and finished' (put in vials) and also 'batch-checked' to make sure it's not contaminated etc.

The next big supply boost could come when Moderna starts to supply the UK. I don't think anything more specific than Spring has been mentioned.
 
twosips said:
Now that is interesting. Care homes is where we should surely start to see the first vaccine signs...
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Only figure I've see are for Scotland, but last 4 weeks care home deaths have been 30% 27% 35% 22%. So seems so. Obviously these would be residents that had covid 3 weeks or so ago before vaccinations were complete or effective so the big drop should come over the next few weeks I'd expect and hope.
 
469,016 people had a first vaccine dose yesterday, taking the UK total of initial inoculations to 10,490,487.

This is equivalent to 19.9% - or one in five - of the UK's population.

Also, more than 500,000 people have now received a second jab.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
It's now just about 6 weeks from Christmas, from which point everywhere was locked down - I think it's not going to be one cause, but multiple things being factors.

@Healdplace
I've missed some of this - do you have a theory on why the NW figure is so comparatively high?
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Legacy from the huge cases on Merseyside just before Christmas when they were still kept out of the top tier. Many visited there for things they could not do around Christmas in GM,

Many of the deaths focus in there and in East Lancashire which has had big problems around Blackburn and Burnley.

Greater Manchester has come off rather better.

This impact will fall now as those cases from back then have dropped with lockdown and deaths lag by weeks as we know. So they will fall too regardless of other measures.

This is a direct predictable (and was predicted) consequence of the utterly crazy decision to treat GM differently from Merseyside.

I argued (as did others) in here for a national lockdown as the only thing that really works. Again that has been proven imo.

I said then before Christmas it would come back and bite Merseyside and much less so GM and that looks like one prediction I got right but wish I never had to make because the treatment of Merseyside was dangerous and needless.

Had they put the UK into a national lockdown pre Christmas not these dangerous tiers many lives would have been saved.

But we are where we are and they are still saying we will exit lockdown into tiers so they still do not get this it appears.

Hopefully by then it will be less important as the vaccine will be protecting most of the vulnerable.
 
kaz7 said:
469,016 people had a first vaccine dose yesterday, taking the UK total of initial inoculations to 10,490,487.

This is equivalent to 19.9% - or one in five - of the UK's population.

Also, more than 500,000 people have now received a second jab.
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Those are amazing figures.

Thankfully, this is the one thing that the Government finally seem to have got right.
 
Marvin said:
Good question because I think the vaccine rate is controlled by supply as this is what the ministers and NHS officials say and I can't see why they would mislead us. I believe they have said the UK has the supply in the UK to meet the mid-Feb target but all the vaccine has to be 'filled and finished' (put in vials) and also 'batch-checked' to make sure it's not contaminated etc.

The next big supply boost could come when Moderna starts to supply the UK. I don't think anything more specific than Spring has been mentioned.
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Is it not the case that some of these tasks are actually completed in Germany?
 
Healdplace said:
Legacy from the huge cases on Merseyside just before Christmas when they were still kept out of the top tier. Many visited there for things they could not do around Christmas in GM,

Many of the deaths focus in there and in East Lancashire which has had big problems around Blackburn and Burnley.

Greater Manchester has come off rather better.

This impact will fall now as those cases from back then have dropped with lockdown and deaths lag by weeks as we know. So they will fall too regardless of other measures.

This is a direct predictable (and was predicted) consequence of the utterly crazy decision to treat GM differently from Merseyside.

I argued (as did others) in here for a national lockdown as the only thing that really works. Again that has been proven imo.

I said then before Christmas it would come back and bite Merseyside and much less so GM and that looks like one prediction I got right but wish I never had to make because the treatment of Merseyside was dangerous and needless.

Had they put the UK into a national lockdown pre Christmas not these dangerous tiers many lives would have been saved.

But we are where we are and they are still saying we will exit lockdown into tiers so they still do not get this it appears.

Hopefully by then it will be less important as the vaccine will be protecting most of the vulnerable.
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Thanks for the detailed reply - I remember that Lancashire had high numbers.

I agree - and exactly as Myself and some of the other London-based people thought putting London in Tier 2 in December was nuts.
 
Marvin said:
800k tests done. Possibly the mass testing for variants contributing to the numbers
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England includes lateral flow tests apparently for which eligibility is much wider. I think that's what's driving the numbers. I did have a reference but can't find it.
 
Healdplace said:
915 all settings deaths.

So 187 out of hospital in England. That is well down on past weeks when in mid week at has been between 400 and 600 added from places such as care homes.
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they are good figures when compared to last week cases and deaths are falling consistently when compared to same time last week. A couple of weeks ago it was just cases .
 
kaz7 said:
469,016 people had a first vaccine dose yesterday, taking the UK total of initial inoculations to 10,490,487.

This is equivalent to 19.9% - or one in five - of the UK's population.

Also, more than 500,000 people have now received a second jab.
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These are the weeks we will make the biggest inroads with the vaccination program.

Second dose numbers are still so low.

By 28th of March, 300,000 people a week are going to need their second jab, by the end of April it will be 2.5m a week.

So unless vaccine production increases 100% in the next 3 months to keep pace, I think we're going to see 10 weeks now of massive 1st dose numbers followed by a massive drop off.
 
gaz76 said:
Anyone seen the video of chris witty getting abuse in the street from some little shit who posted it on tic toc, Putting on some sort of plastic yardy accent, keeps calling him a liar and mandem (whatever the fuck that is).
Would have loved it if witty had turned round and smacked him into next week, but he shown a lot of class and patience by just standing there and letting the kid go on with himself.
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Just read that he has been tracked down by the "mailonline" and his 47 year old mother(no pics) said:- "I have taken away his PlayStation, which is the thing he loves the most. I have not grounded him because he is already suffering enough from the lockdown and does not go out as much as he used to."
Fucksake I would have taken away his bollocks, these kids are getting away with the" suffering with lockdown" lie far too much, society is fucked if the next generation is like this. 20 years ago it would have been his dad kicking the shite out of him, now his mam takes his playstation until tomorrow and its all ok.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
England includes lateral flow tests apparently for which eligibility is much wider. I think that's what's driving the numbers. I did have a reference but can't find it.
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Presume its the same elsewhere, but my mum works in a primary school and she has two tests per week at home now. Can imagine things like this HUGELY bump up the figures. Dunno if they're lateral flow tests, but they're very easily done self swabbing ones.
 
gaz76 said:
Just read that he has been tracked down by the "mailonline" and his 47 year old mother(no pics) said:- "I have taken away his PlayStation, which is the thing he loves the most. I have not grounded him because he is already suffering enough from the lockdown and does not go out as much as he used to."
Fucksake I would have taken away his bollocks, these kids are getting away with the" suffering with lockdown" lie far too much, society is fucked if the next generation is like this. 20 years ago it would have been his dad kicking the shite out of him, now his mam takes his playstation until tomorrow and its all ok.
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in my day we would be visited by a copper and they would clip us around the ear then mum would smack our legs so hard it smarted ,those were the days
 
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