Media Thread 2020/21

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alexmcity said:
www.independent.co.uk

The inside story of Roman Abramovich and Chelsea's new era

Special report: Russian has invested over £200m this summer, restoring his status as one of football’s key figures and forming a new key chapter in his ownership of Chelsea
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Here Delaney is licking Abramovich's arse. What exactly makes Abramovich, a man related to Putin's oligarchy, a better person and owner than Sheikh Mansour?

There's a blatant lie in the article that City (and PSG) have taken spending to new levels. Given inflation in football (a topic that should be discussed a lot more to put financial things in their proper context), Chelsea spent much more money on Mourinho's team than our owners on Pep's team. Not even close. Pathetic journalism.
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Sucking up to Abramovich didn't do them any favours. He took them to the cleaners in court last week. Abramovich is a bit more proactive in defending his reputation than our club is.

www.rt.com

UK’s ‘The Independent’ apologizes to Roman Abramovich, pays Chelsea owner’s legal fees after parroting ‘Putin’s bag carrier’ claim

Britain's The Independent has been forced to make an apology to Russian tycoon and Chelsea FC owner Roman Abramovich, after publishing a story accusing the billionaire of holding illicit cash for Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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What Delaney and his ilk completely overlook is, irrespective of what City paid for them, almost all players City have bought increase their value as a result of improving their performances after they come here, especially in the Pep era. City don't buy finished articles, players at the top of their game or galacticos. We buy good players and/or players with potential and in many cases turn them into great players.

Or does the bitter little gobshite think that KDB is worth only £55m today? Gundogan only £21m, Ederson only £35m, Sterling only £44m, Jesus only £27m, Bernardo only £43m or Zinchenko only £1.7m? Dias's market value is surely already more than the £61m City paid for him last summer. (Compare to Maguire who was never worth £80m even when the rags bought him).
 
laserblue said:
What Delaney and his ilk completely overlook is, irrespective of what City paid for them, almost all players City have bought increase their value as a result of improving their performances after they come here, especially in the Pep era. City don't buy finished articles, players at the top of their game or galacticos. We buy good players and/or players with potential and in many cases turn them into great players.

Or does the bitter little gobshite think that KDB is worth only £55m today? Gundogan only £21m, Ederson only £35m, Sterling only £44m, Jesus only £27m, Bernardo only £43m or Zinchenko only £1.7m? Dias's market value is surely already more than the £61m City paid for him last summer. (Compare to Maguire who was never worth £80m even when the rags bought him).
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But lets not forget, the rags bought an £80million player for £40 million(van de baek)............errr, but now I think hes worth about £4 million.

Is writng off £76 millions in a players value a clever ruse to stay within ffp rules? so thats why they havnt sacked ole yet, hes part of the "united way" business model.
 

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I like his Wiki page:​

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Delaney is half Irish and half Spanish and is bilingual. Delaney studied a journalism degree in Dublin at the DIT before completing a master's degree reading politics.[24][25] Delaney described Hugh McIlvanney as his favourite sports writer.[26] Delaney, by his most recent blatantly biased article regarding Manchester City FC, is a Dipper fan. He makes it embarrassingly obvious
 
NorthamptonBlue said:
I listened to TalkSport today on a long drive. I haven’t ever properly listened before. Simon Jordan called Salah out on his diving big style. Danny Murphy was on too and whilst he was more circumspect, he didn’t contradict Jordan at all. I think it’s become common knowledge now.
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I applaud the use of 'circumspect'....well done, Sir.
 
alexmcity said:
It wouldn't be a problem for Delaney if Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk were our owners just because they are rich (Western) individuals and not 'states'?

The whole point he is making crumbles given that United have spent about as much as us on their squad. The net difference between both clubs since Pep's arrival is a Mendy who barely plays anyway.
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His whole argument crumbles on pretty much every front, and none more so than his opening gambit about the “rigours” of this particular season being such that only ”state-funded” clubs can ride out the storm.
Unfortunately, Miggles‘ attempt to paint a picture of 19 Premier League clubs’ treatment rooms resembling the amputations tents at the Battle of Inkerman, whilst City merrily tag-team their way through English football’s answer to the Crimean War by simply introducing a whole new cohort of troops if the first cohort happens to get wiped out, doesn’t bear much in the way of scrutiny.
With the exception of Liverpool, who are having a very bad season in terms of injuries (and it’s worth drawing a comparison with the previous two seasons, when they had astonishing good fortune with injuries), and Leicester, who’ve been similarly decimated, but, noticeably, haven’t spent the whole season bellyaching about it, and indeed have markedly improved their performances to lie 2nd in the table, most of the other top 4 contenders are actually having a better season injury-wise than they did last year, a fact that torpedoes Miggles’ argument at source.

The following stats, comparing player absences of more than 3 matches for the first 25 games of the 19/20 and 20/21 seasons, are culled from Transfermarkt, who are usually pretty accurate.


Leicester 19/20: Amartey 14, James 21

Leicester 20/21: Soyuncu 11, Fofana 6, Morgan 7, Pereira 17, Castaneda 10, Ndidi 11, Praet 8, Amartey 9


United 19/20: Bailly 21, Rojo 12, Shaw 10, Pogba 17, Martial 6, McTominay 7

United 20/21: Williams 5, Bailly 7, Pogba 4


Spurs 19/20: Lloris 14, Foyth 4, Sessegnon 10, Davies 12, Ndombele 7, Lo Celso 5, Lamela 9, Sissoko 5

Spurs 20/21: Tanganya 11, Reguillon 5, Lo Celso 13, Alli 4, Lamela 7


Chelsea 19/20: Rudiger 14, Emerson 4, Alonso 5, James 9, Kante 8, Loftus-Cheek 25, Barkley 8, Hudson-Odoi 5, Pedro 5, Giroud 11

Chelsea 20/21: Thiago 5, Havertz 5, Gilmour 8, Pulisic 5, Ziyech 9


City 19/20: Laporte 21, Stones 13, Mendy 9, Zinchenko 12, Silva D 4, Sane 25, Aguero 4

City 20/21: Ake 14, Mendy 5, Zinchenko 8, Fernandinho 5, DeBruyne 6, Jesus 8, Aguero 14
 
Reading the BBC football story regarding letting up to 10,000 fans in and i decided to read the comments (i know, i know)
How and when did we become the but of a joke about “no fans”, i’m trying to think when this started? Maine road 34,000 sell outs, Etihad 47,000 sell outs, now over 54,000 but the first comment regarding any empty stadium/no fans is always ours?
You name it, Chelsea, Newcastle, Sheff Wednesday fans all commenting about city struggling to get 10,000. I know its a joke and banter and it doesn’t bother me, i’m scratching my head thinking “why always us” when & why did this start? I really cant figure this out!
 
Man-chester copperpot said:
Reading the BBC football story regarding letting up to 10,000 fans in and i decided to read the comments (i know, i know)
How and when did we become the but of a joke about “no fans”, i’m trying to think when this started? Maine road 34,000 sell outs, Etihad 47,000 sell outs, now over 54,000 but the first comment regarding any empty stadium/no fans is always ours?
You name it, Chelsea, Newcastle, Sheff Wednesday fans all commenting about city struggling to get 10,000. I know its a joke and banter and it doesn’t bother me, i’m scratching my head thinking “why always us” when & why did this start? I really cant figure this out!
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It started when detractors ran out of sticks to throw. Great team, great manager, great ownership. Best go after the fans then. If they're criticising us fans then I'm happy because I know it means we're doing everything right in other areas.
 
alexmcity said:
www.independent.co.uk

The inside story of Roman Abramovich and Chelsea's new era

Special report: Russian has invested over £200m this summer, restoring his status as one of football’s key figures and forming a new key chapter in his ownership of Chelsea
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

Here Delaney is licking Abramovich's arse. What exactly makes Abramovich, a man related to Putin's oligarchy, a better person and owner than Sheikh Mansour?
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From Delaney’s point of view, his skin colour.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
From Delaney’s point of view, his skin colour.
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Abramovich has just sued the Independent and won. They've been forced to apologise for calling him "Putin's bag carrier". We should go after Delaney for his blatant falsehood about us being "state owned".
 
jrb said:
They employ Deloony and they want a ‘contribution’ or a subscription.

Ha!

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Is it a contribution for his leaving gift from Argos then put me down for 50p & sign his card “fck off & good riddance”
 
tregyblue61 said:

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I like his Wiki page:​

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Delaney is half Irish and half Spanish and is bilingual. Delaney studied a journalism degree in Dublin at the DIT before completing a master's degree reading politics.[24][25] Delaney described Hugh McIlvanney as his favourite sports writer.[26] Delaney, by his most recent blatantly biased article regarding Manchester City FC, is a Dipper fan. He makes it embarrassingly obvious
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You mean he can talk bollocks in 2 different languages ? Impressive.
 
I looked through some of Miguels articles to confirm how obvious the outcome of this season was from the start and just thought I'd quote some of my favourite bits.
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This from after the Spurs loss doesn't quite portray the inevitable title win I was expecting -
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If Guardiola is going to struggle to rediscover his team's old relentlessness, this could end up like Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger in the latter years, where there's an obvious blueprint to playing them.
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Interestingly at this point, he wasn't bothered by the cost of our defence, in fact, Spurs had proven how the quality you bring in doesn't matter -
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You can't quite say the same for City's backline. Both Aymeric Laporte and Ruben Dias are two centre-halves of the highest standards, but this was defending of the lowest standard. It was staggering how easy it was for one Harry Kane run to completely unravel the back four, dragging Laporte away so Son could finish. That was £121m worth of centre-halves allowing a gap that big.
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There is a wider point there, which might well be that the manager's structure of the defence is now almost as influential than the quality they bring in. The same problems seem to persist regardless of who is in the defence, and they are also issues for Guardiola that long precede his time at City.​
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Here Miguel explains why no one can get a high points return this season.
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One of the major reasons Liverpool and City have enjoyed such ludicrously high points returns over the past few seasons is because they have been able to apply the most modern football, to the maximum degree, in the most amenable settings. This doesn’t look so possible this season, and there are likely to be significant drop-offs.
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Before the Liverpool game, Migs was pretty uncertain about how things would turn out, except that this Guardiola team is probably finished.
Guardiola, however, could also look across at the opposition for lessons on his challenge....

He is trying to become an even rarer manager to build a new title-winning team at the same club, in the same spell.
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Guardiola isn’t trying to sustain. He’s attempting to rebuild. It’s a very different challenge, that brings in the motivation of the manager as much as the players. That is exacerbated by the fact this is the first time Guardiola has stayed at a club beyond four years. Hanging over this is the uncertainty surrounding the Catalan’s new contract. This situation warrants as much hunger from the manager as the players.​
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We’re thereby into unknown territory, which is also why this very meeting feels much more unpredictable than at any point in the last few years.​
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Many of its key players have gone, although they are pretty much all from the City side. This is why that first Guardiola team is probably finished in its best form, even if some totemic figures remain. Kevin De Bruyne, Raheem Sterling, Ederson and Kyle Walker almost have to be the Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes and Gary Neville figures for him, setting the standards for the budding stars coming in.​
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Within these wider cycles of the games are the cycles of managers and teams.

Guardiola finds himself at the end of one with City, with everything that entails. His 2017-19 title-winning team probably needs to be replenished, in that classic way Sir Alex Ferguson made his great virtue. Some of the core have already faded, other players are just naturally fatigued by the manager’s intensity.

That has been seen in some flatter performances, and so many draws. City as a whole just haven’t had anything like the focus of two years ago. They have no longer felt a team to be feared.
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domalino said:
I looked through some of Miguels articles to confirm how obvious the outcome of this season was from the start and just thought I'd quote some of my favourite bits.
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This from after the Spurs loss doesn't quite portray the inevitable title win I was expecting -
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Interestingly at this point, he wasn't bothered by the cost of our defence, in fact, Spurs had proven how the quality you bring in doesn't matter -
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Here Miguel explains why no one can get a high points return this season.
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Before the Liverpool game, Migs was pretty uncertain about how things would turn out, except that this Guardiola team is probably finished.

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That aged well. Fucking shitbag.
 
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