Coronavirus (2021) thread

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mexico1970 said:
I'm self employed/Semi-retired and will plan a 2 day rest after the jab mate, advice noted and taken.
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Exactly the same as Mexico, picked Friday just in case, arm was sore and felt knackered, couldn't keep my eyes open in the afternoon. Well enough by Sat night to have a couple of drinks, nothing by Sunday. 88 year old dad, no symptoms at all, iron man, you'll be fine.
 
mcfc_ms said:
probably a stupid question but on second does of the jabs, are you only getting the same jab as the first? Or are they mixing them? I've took a few people for their first jabs so far, but they have just obviously been given whatever that centre had in at the time
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Definitely the same but a Scientist on the radio said if mixing the jabs was the only option then do it, can't imagine the circumstances that would lead to that.
 
hammocity said:
Definitely the same but a Scientist on the radio said if mixing the jabs was the only option then do it, can't imagine the circumstances that would lead to that.
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Aren't they trialling mixing though because there is quite a strong theory mixing your vaccinces could be beneficial. I know the Oxford / Sputnik mix is one being tried.
 
blueparrot said:
Aren't they trialling mixing though because there is quite a strong theory mixing your vaccinces could be beneficial. I know the Oxford / Sputnik mix is one being tried.
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Yep, been confirmed all vaccines will be tested working together, guess it will take quite a while though. If there's say 10 vaccines being tested and they use any 2 for a trial that would be 45 different trials one way and 90 if they reversed the vaccines so quite a demanding trial.
 
blueparrot said:
Aren't they trialling mixing though because there is quite a strong theory mixing your vaccinces could be beneficial. I know the Oxford / Sputnik mix is one being tried.
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They are as it might be necessary for the boosters in the autumn (dose 3!) that over 60s likely to have alongside flu - tweaked to take account of the new variants . Exactly as the annual flu jab does.

There could be only one updated make available by October so half might not get it without mixing.
 
BBC News reporting now on the huge negative impact in Europe on the many declining to have the AZ jab because of the negative publicity.

A million doses sitting unused that should be saving lives.

A huge vaccination clinic in Belgium empty and having just 1 person in an hour as they were using AZ and the rest did not show.

The French health minister even was given AZ just to try to convince people!

The day we just have 'the' vaccine and it matters not who made it the better.

I have had the flu jab for over 20 years and not the foggiest idea who made any of them or if they were different companies year to year as likely they were.

This 'choice' and PR war is skewing this pandemic badly. And will kill people unfortunately.
 
Vic said:
So a quarter of the people who've had the first dose have still caught Covid? How do they actually measure transmission?
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Both vaccines deliver zero immunity for two weeks after the 1st jab (unless you had Covid-19 previously). Too many people are assuming they have immunity after inoculation.
22 days to 28 days gives you very good immunity from the first jab.
 
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Sir Richard Leese says that Manchester Central Nightingale hospital will close next month as no need for it.

As of the start of this week GM patients going into hospital with Covid fell from 266 in the week up to 1 Feb to 186 in the week up to Monday.

This matches the huge falls I posted in here last night from the England hospital regions.

England Covid patients fell from 34, 336 in mid January to 13, 007 yesterday.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
Their death rate is lower per infection though. Then again they do put extra Vitamin D in foodstuffs
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Not by that much, from my rough calculations 1 death per 495 in Sweden & 1 per 540 here which given the route they took with a totally different urban/rural split to us although better at the moment leaves their plan looking not particularly successful.

I only bring this up as the board had quite a few posters wishing we'd gone down their route.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
Not by that much, from my rough calculations 1 death per 495 in Sweden & 1 per 540 here which given the route they took with a totally different urban/rural split to us although better at the moment leaves their plan looking not particularly successful.

I only bring this up as the board had quite a few posters wishing we'd gone down their route.
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They didn't do well even though Covidiots thought it was the way to go for a long time. They're had a form of lockdown light since mid November
 
Healdplace said:
BBC News reporting now on the huge negative impact in Europe on the many declining to have the AZ jab because of the negative publicity.

A million doses sitting unused that should be saving lives.

A huge vaccination clinic in Belgium empty and having just 1 person in an hour as they were using AZ and the rest did not show.

The French health minister even was given AZ just to try to convince people!

The day we just have 'the' vaccine and it matters not who made it the better.

I have had the flu jab for over 20 years and not the foggiest idea who made any of them or if they were different companies year to year as likely they were.

This 'choice' and PR war is skewing this pandemic badly. And will kill people unfortunately.
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social media has messed the world up imo, the rise of Trump is proof of that.
 
China has approved two more locally developed vaccines making a total of four now.

The strange thing is that neither China or Russia with their Sputnik vaccine are making any great effort to vaccinate their populations but instead they are offering them to medium-low income countries in order to gain political leverage seemingly. I assume that that they aren’t overly confident that they are any good for domestic consumption.
 
Does this PHE graph up to 21 Feb show the start of the steeper fall in over 80s deaths?

Everywhere down a lot but the orange line is the over 80s and looks to have dropped the steepest in past week.
 

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England hospital deaths

254 - with 47 (19%) from the NW - a bit of a disappointment there.

Down from 309 with 42 from NW last week.

Tue, Wed and Thu tend to be the biggest totals each week

Two weeks ago they added up to 1667. last week they added up to 1305 - this week they are 926.

So a good downtrack.
 
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