#7 | Raheem Sterling - 2020/21 Performances

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So according to you, you can see he isn't good enough, but we will get 100m + for him, make your mind up, sums up the amount of shite posted on bluemoon,
Yes exactly. You're just trying make me look bad with this populist cynicism. How much United paid for Pogba? How much Barcelona paid for Griezmann Coutinho and Dembele. How much Arsenal paid for Pepe. Price does not always guarantee quality. Sterling will be sold for that amount, that does not mean I think he is worth 100M
 
Yeah well, apart from his goals and assists, being a key part of an ongoing winning run which is currently at 19 games and being a key part of an unprecedented amount of trophy wins for us since he joined the club what has Sterling ever done for us?

He didn't have a great game last night but Foden wasn't much better, but apparently according to some of the mob on here he gets a pass while Sterling is now the worst player ever. (Not hating on Foden by the way just illustrating the different treatment players get on here depending who is the current target of the boo boys).

If he had been dropped last Sunday he wouldn't have scored the winning goal.

Someone said stats came be deceptive, I would agree with that, however when the stats are actual goals and assists then that is the key measure of a forward player. He's a much better player than a lot of people on here give him credit for.
 
Sterlings "numbers" are not a reflection of his form , as others have said his movement means he is often Johnny on the spot for a tap in , he is playing currently in the best team in europe so he will ge this share of goals no matter how dire he is playing, we have players who can put chances on a plate for any player.

He is terrible with one on one's with the keeper he misses nine out of ten chances , he misses absolute sitters in every game (remember the Lyon game 2 yards out) the reason we do not win big Champs league games is because of players like Sterling who bottles it . He's fine over 38 league games against dross he will notch 20 goals , but at the very top level , were we want to be he isnt good enough , how many times has he scored in big games against the Rags and Dippers for example ? three times in about 30 games and he has missed a dozen of sitters against them.

Foden is ten times the finisher Sterling is , and he's only 20 years old and Foden should start in a wide position before Sterling every time , he's a better player all round , on the other flank it would be Mahrez because he is in better form even Torres has shown glimpses and has proved he can finish chances as well.

Alernatively we go for the best and buy Mbappe for £150m who makes Sterling look like a Sunday league player in comparison.
Sterling isnt going to change he is hit and miss , love his and effort and his attitude but he has peaked he isnt going to get any better , he has been good for our club and helped us to win plenty of trophies but if someone offered £70/80m to buy him ,thats good business
Raheem is a good , honest footballer but never world class in a month of Sundays.
 
Yeah well, apart from his goals and assists, being a key part of an ongoing winning run which is currently at 19 games and being a key part of an unprecedented amount of trophy wins for us since he joined the club what has Sterling ever done for us?

He didn't have a great game last night but Foden wasn't much better, but apparently according to some of the mob on here he gets a pass while Sterling is now the worst player ever. (Not hating on Foden by the way just illustrating the different treatment players get on here depending who is the current target of the boo boys).

If he had been dropped last Sunday he wouldn't have scored the winning goal.

Someone said stats came be deceptive, I would agree with that, however when the stats are actual goals and assists then that is the key measure of a forward player. He's a much better player than a lot of people on here give him credit for.
I think its a little unfair to compare Sterling and Foden. One is a kid who will have peaks and troughs, the other is a senior member of the squad, who now finds himself sporting a captains armband. A more appropriate comparison would be with Mahrez, and I know who between them gets the most stick on here (and rightly so).

As for the G/A argument. I agree with you. In his 1st couple of seasons he was atrocious. He copped a lot of stick on here, some justified, some not so much. He then had a couple of great seasons, where his all-round play improved and he produced impressive numbers. He was the darling of Bluemoon. 19/20, his overall performances dipped significantly, but the G/A numbers went up. A fair number on here didn't like the way he was playing, but accepted that a guy producing the numbers he was, deserved some leeway. This season, his overall play is woeful and G/A wise he has significantly dropped in output.

He is now as bad as he has been since 16/17. He needs to either significantly improve his overall play, or get back to scoring for fun.
 
Actually, my post was correct.

You were desperate to flog Bernardo not long ago and you were similarly bullish when anyone tried to tell you that you were confusing form with quality.

Stop being so defensive anytime someone disagrees with you.
Dont tell me how to react,especially when you are making things up to support your nonsense.
Just to clarify,Bernardo has always been one of my favourite players,i have never wanted him sold.

You are possibly confusing me with another member you stalk?

As for form......how long do we give 'he who must not be criticised' to rediscover it? another 12 months? more??
 
Dont tell me how to react,especially when you are making things up to support your nonsense.
Just to clarify,Bernardo has always been one of my favourite players,i have never wanted him sold.

You are possibly confusing me with another member you stalk?

As for form......how long do we give 'he who must not be criticised' to rediscover it? another 12 months? more??

Nobody said he can't be criticised. I don't know how many times you need to be told this.
 
I think sterling's probably hit his ceiling. There's only so much Pep can do, he's worked wonders with him so far but sterling's speed of thought, decision making and control are all piss poor, that's pretty much undeniable now and they're what's stopping him improving further and are things that are likely never to improve now, at least not enough.

Our moves break down with him so often now and not because he's trying something risky where you accept it might break down like if say kdb tried a through ball, they're breaking down with him failing to do the basics.

I think we're at the stage now where replacing sterling is high up on the list of ways to constantly improve our side. Imagine you're txiki evaluating the squad, you look at replacing mendy and finding a successor for aguero/fernandinho as the priorities in this squad and then after that if you look at our squad and say where can we improve the most, there's more scope for that in replacing sterling than anywhere else in the side.
 
I think sterling's probably hit his ceiling. There's only so much Pep can do, he's worked wonders with him so far but sterling's speed of thought, decision making and control are all piss poor, that's pretty much undeniable now and they're what's stopping him improving further and are things that are likely never to improve now, at least not enough.

Our moves break down with him so often now and not because he's trying something risky where you accept it might break down like if say kdb tried a through ball, they're breaking down with him failing to do the basics.

I think we're at the stage now where replacing sterling is high up on the list of ways to constantly improve our side. Imagine you're txiki evaluating the squad, you look at replacing mendy and finding a successor for aguero/fernandinho as the priorities in this squad and then after that if you look at our squad and say where can we improve the most, there's more scope for that in replacing sterling than anywhere else in the side.

I honestly couldn't have said it any better myself. The guy does 1 MAYBE 2 OK things each game to gloss over utter technical ability deficiencies which result in him wasting chance after chance. Thats without going into the confidence/mental/decision making weakness side of things.

I appreciate him for his past efforts and he had a couple of excellent seasons. But lets not kid ourselves that it was because of his own brilliance(other than a few occasions)....he was literally fed sitter after sitter in previous seasons(thanks to peps positional coaching) while now in this newer setup his weaknesses are on full display all too often and there are better young wingers on the market. I actually dont know how he gets in ahead of torres right now given torres can also play both sides comfortably and we know he can link with phil very well on the left.

I hate sounding so harsh on raz but he's been completely underwhelming for a long time now. You could argue these same difficiencies cost us last year against lyon too. For a top class winger to regularly just run into legs and miss sitters is unforgivable imo...at least make the defender/keeper work, even if it doesnt end up coming off. The odd miss is understandable but when you scuff more than you finish from the kind of chances he gets...its really not a good look.

The most telling thing would be the consideration of who would buy him and for what money. When he was thriving off tap ins(and missing more than he put away) real were touted...but now? hmmm?
 
I don’t buy that Sterling is a complete donkey with no technical ability. I just can’t see Pep suffering that for five years with Sterling one of the first names on the team sheet.

I think he has the ability. Not to Bernardo’s level or Mahrez’s but certainly enough to be in this team. We’ve seen it enough times to know it’s in there.

What he absolutely lacks is consistency. Not just consistency of performance, but consistency of touch, focus, decision-making. It’s all mental. If it was genuinely a lack of basic ability he wouldn’t be at City
 
I think Pep will be ruthless in the coming months/summer.
i honestly believe he is closing in on making us the best team on the planet.
But to get to that stage you can't be carrying players for long periods of time.
The better we get with this team the worse Raz as looked.
I agree with other posts on here that we probably have seen Raz,s best, but this team
seems to be going to another level and unfortunately Raz is standing out like a sore thumb for the wrong reasons.
Decision making, no confidence to take a player on, losing possession etc etc.
 
Any refresh or rebuild at the end if the season will have Sterling still in the squad, still playing week in weeknout, and still getting goals and assists for us.
 
FWIW he's not in great form, much like Bernardo wasnt in great form last season. Still contributing though, and will be given every chance to find his best form again.
 
I think sterling's probably hit his ceiling. There's only so much Pep can do, he's worked wonders with him so far but sterling's speed of thought, decision making and control are all piss poor, that's pretty much undeniable now and they're what's stopping him improving further and are things that are likely never to improve now, at least not enough.

Our moves break down with him so often now and not because he's trying something risky where you accept it might break down like if say kdb tried a through ball, they're breaking down with him failing to do the basics.

I think we're at the stage now where replacing sterling is high up on the list of ways to constantly improve our side. Imagine you're txiki evaluating the squad, you look at replacing mendy and finding a successor for aguero/fernandinho as the priorities in this squad and then after that if you look at our squad and say where can we improve the most, there's more scope for that in replacing sterling than anywhere else in the side.
Saka is the kid,everything and more that Sterling was.
 
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