Everybody is getting somewhat irate about this, but hands up who reckons we would have scored the penner?!
Why is that even relevant?Everybody is getting somewhat irate about this, but hands up who reckons we would have scored the penner?!
Moss is 50yrs old and clearly not fit. He was behind play for most for the game and when he was close to it he was usually in the way as he was too slow to move. I have never rated him since he awarded a pen for a handball against Micah when the ball was kicked at his foot from a couple of yard away and it came off his foot at speed and hit his hand which was down by his side. No way he could have avoided it,. Moss is incompetent and not fit.
Pmsl.....what a stupid fuckin postEverybody is getting somewhat irate about this, but hands up who reckons we would have scored the penner?!
Ashley Young on Aguero has to be the ultimate?
I’d suppressed the memory of that one, can tell I was traumatised that day...
For what it's worth, I thought there was a very slight touch of the ball by their keeper. You can see a slight deviation in the direction of the ball from at least one angle. It was after Foden kicked the ball.
But it is irrelevant. Nowhere in the Laws of the Game does it say a foul cannot be committed if a player touched the ball in the same action.
A foul is committed if a player kicks an opponent in a careless or reckless manner, or using excessive force. That foul definitely met those criteria, and it was a penalty.
All this 'did he touch the ball' nonsense is just obfuscation. As is the stuff about going to ground or staying down. A foul is a foul, independent of anything else.
In fact, by trying to stay on this feet, Foden definitely did the right thing. This is because he might have scored, and we wouldn't have needed the penalty, but if he didn't, the referee could have brought play back from the advantage that didn't accrue, and award a penalty anyway. This is what should have happened, giving us in effect two bites at the cherry.
Champions elect running away with the league but beaten by their rivals after a 21 game run, struggling again against a decent Southampton side with the game at 1-1. If they had done their job properly that would have been Soton down to 10 men in the first half, and likely 2-1 to city and game over. But that would have gone against the narrative they wanted which was for us to drop points again so the title race can become marketable again.I’m very pro VAR, on the whole I like having the safety net. Last night was the perfect situation and should have been an easy win for VAR. An incompetent referee can’t spot a blatant penalty, VAR checks it, corrects the mistake, awards the penalty, job done. Then I come on here singing VARs praises and it’s critics are silenced for a while. So what the hell happened? There’s not a chance a qualified referee sees them pictures and doesn’t award a penalty. I smell a rat.
I just saw Chris Foy interviewed and he said he would have awarded a pen, and if not VAR should have done so. He’s been out of the game for a few years, but from what I recall he always seemed fairer than this hopeless bunch.I’m very pro VAR, on the whole I like having the safety net. Last night was the perfect situation and should have been an easy win for VAR. An incompetent referee can’t spot a blatant penalty, VAR checks it, corrects the mistake, awards the penalty, job done. Then I come on here singing VARs praises and it’s critics are silenced for a while. So what the hell happened? There’s not a chance a qualified referee sees them pictures and doesn’t award a penalty. I smell a rat.
Dermot Gallagher just said its a pen , david james a pen, brad ex liverpool keeper pen, but never mind VAR dont answer to anyoneI just saw Chris Foy interviewed and he said he would have awarded a pen, and if not VAR should have done so. He’s been out of the game for a few years, but from what I recall he always seemed fairer than this hopeless bunch.
Why would they have been down to ten men? Please consult current interpretation of the law before replying. - I'll help: He made an attempt to play the ball and he wasn't reckless.Champions elect running away with the league but beaten by their rivals after a 21 game run, struggling again against a decent Southampton side with the game at 1-1. If they had done their job properly that would have been Soton down to 10 men in the first half, and likely 2-1 to city and game over. But that would have gone against the narrative they wanted which was for us to drop points again so the title race can become marketable again.
Expect more of this to come over the next few games.
If being the last man and you stop a clear goal scoring chance, is that not an automatic red anymore ?Why would they have been down to ten men? Please consult current interpretation of the law before replying. - I'll help: He made an attempt to play the ball and he wasn't reckless.
Three penalty calls. Kev pushed off the ball early on, more blatant than the one Southampton got. Maybe 4 as Dias felt he was held on one cross.Pretty well said. I don’t think he touched the ball but it was probably the direction the ball travelled that made them say he had. But as you say “did he get the slightest touch on the ball?” is completely irrelevant - he may have moved the ball a bit but had he not taken out Phil that’s a goal. So it’s a penalty, all day every day. Had he cleared the ball and taken Phil out it’s not a penalty.
I don’t normally get too animated on these decisions but both penalty calls last night fell way below the standards of professional refereeing. Just glad it didn’t matter in the end.
I get why people would think like that because the decision is bizarre, but the key to being corrupt is to choose your interventions carefully. For example, the Southampton penalty was dubious imo, but I certainly couldn’t say the decision to award it was corrupt. With Foden the decision was so clearly wrong that it is being roundly panned and ridiculed, so the spotlight is on the refereeing team. Not what you want if you’re trying to be corrupt and to get away with it.Champions elect running away with the league but beaten by their rivals after a 21 game run, struggling again against a decent Southampton side with the game at 1-1. If they had done their job properly that would have been Soton down to 10 men in the first half, and likely 2-1 to city and game over. But that would have gone against the narrative they wanted which was for us to drop points again so the title race can become marketable again.
Expect more of this to come over the next few games.
Not if it's in the penalty area. It hasn't been a red card for three years.If being the last man and you stop a clear goal scoring chance, is that not an automatic red anymore ?