Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Len Rum said:
Hello mate.
Unlike you I'm capable of holding two opposing ideas on a situation.
So to spell it out simply for you:
Vaccine procurement and roll out - excellent - the figures are there for all to see.
Measures to control pandemic March to December 2020 appalling and incompetent as evidenced by one of the worse hits to economy TO DATE ( i.e. not as you speculate in the future this is unknown) and deaths per capita in the world TO DATE ( i.e. not in the future)
Maybe these comparisons will change - we'll see.
But that is the situation to date.
Your problem is that you can't handle any criticism of the Tory Government.
And you come down very hard on anyone who suggests there could be legitimate issues or problems in reducing the spread of the virus.
@Marvin raised a issue concerning variants the other day and yet all you could do was have a pop at him (twice).
Maybe you worry too much, I don't know, but try to be less critical for no good reason and take your Tory glasses off.
PS Your recent reply to @roubaixtuesday just confirms my point.
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I stopped reading at you can see two sides. We are doing well at the moment as you well know and let’s hope well out of this in a few weeks time. Need a huge vaccine push for the rest of March. I need my life back!
 
roubaixtuesday said:
I think it's very hard to predict exactly what will happen to anyone's economy next. Personally I suspect there will be huge changes (working from home, city centres, perhaps making supply chains more national rather than global, healthcare investment etc etc). And of course for the UK there will be a huge impact of Brexit (without commenting whether for good or ill, just that it will be big).

It is clear, however, from what's already passed, there's no way on earth we'll come out of it net ahead of Germany. It's quite impossible.
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Time to Bring back Bruce's I'm backing Britain
 
zerox said:
I thought you were a facts man.
Take the beginning of the year as the approx start of the UK vac push, and the pound is over 5% better than the Euro.
The UK is seen as being far superior to Germany at the moment.
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I'm talking about the overall economic hit to GDP over the span of the pandemic.
 
frothy said:
Time to Bring back Bruce's I'm backing Britain
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A tempting response.

And with some logic in maintaining emergency capability.

But we should beware of protectionism - it has a long history of proving to be counterproductive on wealth. Trade actually increases the output of both sides in a transaction, it's a genuine win/win.

The politics of protectionism have a long, dangerous and inglorious history too.
 
worsleyweb said:
I stopped reading at you can see two sides. We are doing well at the moment as you well know and let’s hope well out of this in a few weeks time. Need a huge vaccine push for the rest of March. I need my life back!
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Well there you have it.
I agree with your last three sentences of your post and have given it a 'like'!
 
roubaixtuesday said:
A tempting response.

And with some logic in maintaining emergency capability.

But we should beware of protectionism - it has a long history of proving to be counterproductive on wealth. Trade actually increases the output of both sides in a transaction, it's a genuine win/win.

The politics of protectionism have a long, dangerous and inglorious history too.
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Dont understand your problem, they are making it as difficult as possible for us to trade with the EU and for us to import goods from the EU, so doesn't look like we've got much choice the rest of the world still wants to trade with us
 
It was a really good day for both the North West and Greater Manchester by the way. ::Lowest numbers for both in around six months.

And North West not top. Yorkshire well ahead today.

GM also had a borough with a single number of cases (9) for the first time since wave 1.

No prizes at all if you guessed it was Trafford!
 
frothy said:
Dont understand your problem, they are making it as difficult as possible for us to trade with the EU and for us to import goods from the EU, so doesn't look like we've got much choice the rest of the world still wants to trade with us
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I wasn't making a point about the EU or Brexit. Just that trade generally is economically beneficial to both sides, so a "Buy British" campaign is likely to end up being counterproductive, counter-intuitively.

That applies whether the trade is with EU, US, China, or Antarctica.
 
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