A thread about protesters

Rascal said:
No, you can't have a revolution, it is against the law.

No, you can't protest, its against the law

No, you can't moan, its against the law

No, you can't disagree, its against the law

Democracy, no you cant, its against the law

Oh fuck, we live in an Authoritarian state, everything is against the law., I am sure that kid Rascal said Johnson was an authoritarian throwback with Fascist tendencies, but its too late now, i cant post on BM because its against the law to show dissent against the authorities, every time I go out there are secret police watching me to make sure I don't break the law.

Heil Johnson, the Fuehrer and Overlord, the man of the people who has made the UK so safe that the only people who can break the law are him and his friends.

Hurrah!!
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Coming from you, i.e. someone who supports the doctrines of oppressive communist regimes, I find this highly amusing. And utter bollocks as well, of course.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
We sure as hell could not have protested against Brexit in the way that was done when over a million gathered in London peacefully.
Peaceful protest has to be part of the fabric of a mature democracy.
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Accepting the results of a democratic vote is a much better way of advancing
democratic principles, protesting against democracy is a novel way of
supporting it.
 
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Stuuuuuu said:
Protest has achieved, among many other things:

Women's suffrage.
Suffrage for all races.
Acceptance of LGBT people.
UK reluctance to engage in war since 2003.
Protection of Muslim's against Trumps airport ban.
Withdrawal of troops from Vietnam and other wars.
An end to segregation.
And end to Communism in states like Czechoslovakia.

The government is now effectively trying to ban protest. Please look at how you, your family and others have benefited from these. Please do not stigmatise protest.
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Nobody is stigmatising protest. We’re moaning about protests happening when we’re in lockdown restrictions, when they still happen even when the actual organisers of them cancel them (so you have to wonder, if the organisers aren’t there, who is and who’s leading certain actions?!), and the dodgy fuckers that always turn up to them.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
And there’s a very shady crew who always seem to tag along to them all in the background n’all. A very strange bunch of faceless nameless people who nobody actually knows, who turn up and start the aggro.

They’re there at every protest going. A load of Ian Brown anarchist weirdos. Orchestrated, planned, organised, know exactly what they’re doing beforehand, clear aims, dodgy as fuck... there to cause trouble and cause trouble only... there to spark a reaction from the Police to stir shit and make the Police look bad.
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There were 4 arrests.
 
The Govt doesn’t like protests and certainly didn’t like the BLM and Extinction Rev protests, hence this desire to stop all protests. There is already adequate legislation on the books to deal with the more disruptive protests and passing more legislation will not prevent anything, other than perhaps the chance to lock up people for a decade (shades of China), but it will likely just add more fuel to the protest fire.

The Clapham vigil/protest was an own goal, because the vigil could have taken place safely within Covid guidelines (others elsewhere did), yet there was a determination to make an example here because it was a ‘soft target’, ie just ordinary women and likely not to defy the banning order. When they did, examples had to be made, hence the PR clusterfuck.

The other reason for this attempt to strangle the right to protest is the State capacity to deal with protest which with our policing levels is severely compromised, so the hope is to prevent them happening because we struggle when they do.

If people feel strongly enough about an issue, there will be protest no matter how many laws you pass and if the State can’t cope beyond a certain level of protest then you weaken a populations adherence to the rule of law if you keep banning protests that go ahead anyway.
 
BobKowalski said:
The Govt doesn’t like protests and certainly didn’t like the BLM and Extinction Rev protests, hence this desire to stop all protests. There is already adequate legislation on the books to deal with the more disruptive protests and passing more legislation will not prevent anything, other than perhaps the chance to lock up people for a decade (shades of China), but it will likely just add more fuel to the protest fire.

The Clapham vigil/protest was an own goal, because the vigil could have taken place safely within Covid guidelines (others elsewhere did), yet there was a determination to make an example here because it was a ‘soft target’, ie just ordinary women and likely not to defy the banning order. When they did, examples had to be made, hence the PR clusterfuck.

The other reason for this attempt to strangle the right to protest is the State capacity to deal with protest which with our policing levels is severely compromised, so the hope is to prevent them happening because we struggle when they do.

If people feel strongly enough about an issue, there will be protest no matter how many laws you pass and if the State can’t cope beyond a certain level of protest then you weaken a populations adherence to the rule of law if you keep banning protests that go ahead anyway.
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Cheesy said:
And just look at the amount of shit the police have got for that.
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Yeah, mostly off bedroom warriors on the internet with no fucking clue but just love to tell the world how disgusted they are.
Four arrests is not a riot or organised anarchy or the breakdown of society as we know it. It's fuck all.
Lock them all up for breaking covid? It takes 5 coppers and 3 hours of form filling just to get them into the cells. There would be no police available to do the policing we really need. I don't need 'protecting' from any of those i saw demonstrating.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Coming from you, i.e. someone who supports the doctrines of oppressive communist regimes, I find this highly amusing. And utter bollocks as well, of course.
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Communism is not oppressive, that is just Capitalist propaganda based on Cold War rhetoric.

And then we get into the same old arguments about the USSR and Stalin, who was an oppressive dictator and of whom you could quite feasibly argue was not a Communist but a Fascist.

This is why we need the right to protest, when people are labelled in such a fashion then protest is the only defence they have, otherwise they are crushed under the yoke of the Capitalist class.

Back to the topic at hand

If you support the stopping of protest's, do not be surprised that if you ever feel you want to protest about anything if it is stopped. Because these powers are scary and have no place in a democracy, they are authoritarian and they are a danger to democracy.
 
They’re at it again tonight marching through London shouting ‘all cops are b******* the same police who bash up anti lockdown protestors are marching civilly beside them, what is going on?
 
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