Coronavirus (2021) thread

[KS55]

Just seen breaking, over 800,000 doses in the day. Just wow!

 

[Indaparkside]

Compare and contrast. Tony Blair, for all the good things he did, will have Iraq as his legacy. Boris, for all the tomfoolery and botches, will have the defeat of the pandemic as his.

It’s not defeated yet

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland data:

1 death - was 0 last week

125 cases - was 143 last week

9.4% positivity - was 10.8 last week

8 care home outbreaks - same as yesterday - was 14 last week

7 day rolling cases total 1072 - was 1085 yesterday & 1311 last week

158 patients - down 2 on yesterday - was 180 last week

13 ventilated icu - down 3 on yesterday - was 18 last week

Yet more good data here. The part of the UK that Zoe App says has the most cases oddly.

Most of those - as likely everywhere - are just not sick enough to need to end up on the hospital stats now - which is great news

 

[mancity1]

It’s not defeated yet

Do people believe that strict hygiene, high testing rates , social distancing and mask wearing combined with good tracing , infection control and quarantining alone could keep the virus in check?

there is good evidence in Australia that this works although it comes at the expense of limiting air transport of passengers and very few would want to quarantine for 18 days if they arrived for a holiday.

I am not sure that in populations that are much more dense per capita with large populations in relatively smaller confines its a guarantee.

interested in peoples thoughts on this as its important moving forward for new variants that might require different vaccines.

 

[Healdplace]

35 England hospital deaths

By region:

Midlands 12 NE &Yorkshire 7, South East 5, North West 4. East 3, London 3, South West 1

Highest 4 in Bradford and in North West 2 in Blackpool


By age:

20 - 39 (1) 2.9%

40 - 59 (6) 17.1%

60 - 79 (9) 25.7%

80 PLUS (19) 54.3%

One fifth (20%) under 60 is the highest percentage I can recall. Meaningless as these are now imo.

 

[Indaparkside]

Do people believe that strict hygiene, high testing rates , social distancing and mask wearing combined with good tracing , infection control and quarantining alone could keep the virus in check?

there is good evidence in Australia that this works although it comes at the expense of limiting air transport of passengers and very few would want to quarantine for 18 days if they arrived for a holiday.

I am not sure that in populations that are much more dense per capita with large populations in relatively smaller confines its a guarantee.

interested in peoples thoughts on this as its important moving forward for new variants that might require different vaccines.

I think we still have a long way to go, years even for the world to resemble what we once knew

 

[somapop]

Yes. I read somewhere that the virus mutates after it has infected about 80 ppl. So there must be millions of variations which are nugatory.

Is that Lidl’s version of Nutella?

 

[Cityfan]

Only the ones you’ve read about out of the however many tens of thousands there have been!

I said the variants of note, which have been the ones we have read about.
I also mentioned lots of neutral variants.
If there has been a variant that is significantly less dangerous it would not appear to have a competitive advantage.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths wk to wk:

301 / 49 NW / 16%

258 / 23 NW / 9% (14 % fall wk to wk)

149 / 25 NW / 14% (42 % fall wk to wk)

90 / 7 NW / 8% (39 % fall wk to wk)

49 / 1 NW / 2 % (46 % fall wk to wk)

35 / 4 NW / 11% (29 % fall wk to wk) TODAY

 

[mancity1]

I think we still have a long way to go, years even for the world to resemble what we once knew

Interesting ,I certainly think as far as plane travel is concerned you could be right.

 

[Healdplace]

Interesting ,I certainly think as far as plane travel is concerned you could be right.

I can see long range ship travel becoming all the rage as there is a much easier way to ensure people do not import a virus if you are at sea for a week getting home and if any cases they just leave you there until all clear.

 

[True_Blue69]

I said the variants of note, which have been the ones we have read about.
I also mentioned lots of neutral variants.
If there has been a variant that is significantly less dangerous it would not appear to have a competitive advantage.

The 8 or so that you have read about, exactly. Do you really think there are not some other variants at the other end of the scale? They don’t get written about as it’s not what people want to read, doom sells when it comes to journalism.

 

[Healdplace]

Total deaths for the UK with just out of hospital England yet to come (likely to go down not up with discounted cases) 42 - needless to say the lowest even on a Sunday in about 5 months,

Wk to wk :- 283 v 178 v 111 v 61 v 42

Though this looks to the eye like a slow down percentages count.

Falling by about 30% week. So next week might be around 30 if that holds to the same pattern>

That would look disappointing but is not and it is just what happens when you get this low. An extra one or two on a day is magnified by it being a big fraction of a small number.

 

[mancity1]

I can see long range ship travel becoming all the rage as there is a much easier way to ensure people do not import a virus if you are at sea for a week getting home and if any cases they just leave you there until all clear.

Interesting however at port their is always a risk of transmission and ships are high risk certainly without vaccination and proper infection control which would not be easy by design.

Hopefully once fully vaccinated any passenger if they contract it prior to boarding is not likely to transmit as easily if they were not.

its early days into our vaccination here in OZ albeit we have very little community spread but their is a reluctance for public transport take up again and second hand car sales have increased dramatically in the past twelve months.

 

[marco]

vaccine day tomo for me

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

vaccine day tomo for me

Had mine this morning. So efficient and well done.
Bit of a dead arm now but nothing else.
You don't even feel the needle.

 

[Healdplace]

Three nation cases with England to come is 853

Wk to wk:- 1426 v 955 v 685 v 844 v 853

I guess cases are flatlining but given that we eased restrictions I think the impact looks to have been minimal.

Bigger tests to come with next phases of easing.

But as we keep saying cases are no longer the issue so long as they do not spiral upwards when that would start to impact other data by weight of numbers.

Deaths and hospital data are the thing now and both of them are showing little sig of slowing down on their downward path.

 

[Healdplace]

33 all settings deaths,

5312 cases - down 275 on yesterday.

But which is up 694 on last Sunday.

And even up 135 on two Sundays ago.

So it does seem inevitably that cases have risen a little with the easing. But as yet nothing that seems to be in the scale of being a problem.

 

[Healdplace]

Unhappily the numbers not good for the North West today.

Whilst most areas are down and South West at just 189 has the lowest number in any region since last Summer.

The NW rises by 124 to 894 - its highest in 10 days and the biggest rise in the UK as Yorkshire falls from 885 to 811

So for the first time in a week NW is the the highest region.

I have to suspect that whatever happened to the numbers on Friday when they were so low I doubted them openly is still being corrected and playing out in adjusting the data as Sunday numbers are not usually high ones.

If so this will have worked itself through by the start of the week and normality might resume.

I guess we will see.

 

[crooky]

I can see long range ship travel becoming all the rage as there is a much easier way to ensure people do not import a virus if you are at sea for a week getting home and if any cases they just leave you there until all clear.

Sod that. Imagine being on one of the unlucky boats that has cases. Would they keep you on the ship for another 14 days or let you go home to quarantine?

As little time as possible with the general public has to be the aim during these times and a ship full of people seems against that logic.