Coronavirus (2021) thread

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give it to gordon said:
Just got my letter telling me to stop shielding on the 1st April and go back to work.
Sort of looking forward to going back to work, but still abit nervous about it, especially as how it seems to be increasing in Europe again.
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But is it really inevitable that another wave in Europe should be expected to roll in the direction of Britain? If anything we should expect the wave to be in the other direction. Europe’s third wave is being driven primarily by the more-transmissible B.1.1.7, or Kent, variant, which now accounts for three quarters of all cases in Germany. That variant, as its name suggests, originated in Britain, and was responsible for the huge surge in new infections here in December.



Moreover, both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines currently in use in Britain have been shown to be effective against the B.1.1.7 variant. With more than half the UK adult population now vaccinated – the far more vulnerable half – there seems limited scope for a runaway third wave of infections in Britain.

I read this , hope it gives a little comfort.good luck
 
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roubaixtuesday said:
Which, of course, tells you that a board appointed by AstraZeneca is conspiring against AstraZeneca in order to maximise the profits of other Pharma companies who have already sold all they can make in advance.

Makes perfect sense.
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No it makes me wonder why someone made a statement like that without asking questions first. Oh and they're quasi independent folk selected from a list by AZ.
And as I understand it the only question they actually have is where is the data from mid February to now?
 
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Healdplace said:
Btw anyone have any thoughts on this story about the common cold being able to boot Covid out of people?
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Not seen that, but recalling that the "common cold" could be any one of dozens of viruses, it seems... ...unlikely.

Is the source reputable?
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
But is it really inevitable that another wave in Europe should be expected to roll in the direction of Britain? If anything we should expect the wave to be in the other direction. Europe’s third wave is being driven primarily by the more-transmissible B.1.1.7, or Kent, variant, which now accounts for three quarters of all cases in Germany. That variant, as its name suggests, originated in Britain, and was responsible for the huge surge in new infections here in December.



Moreover, both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines currently in use in Britain have been shown to be effective against the B.1.1.7 variant. With more than half the UK adult population now vaccinated – the far more vulnerable half – there seems limited scope for a runaway third wave of infections in Britain.

I read this , hope it gives a little comfort.
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The SA variant is in the EU.
AZ is not very effective against it.
 
BlueAnorak said:
No it makes me wonder why someone made a statement like that without asking questions first. Oh and they're quasi independent.
And as I understand it the only question they have is data from mid February to now.
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And your conclusion from this "wondering" is that they're engaged in a conspiracy against AstraZeneca.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
But is it really inevitable that another wave in Europe should be expected to roll in the direction of Britain? If anything we should expect the wave to be in the other direction. Europe’s third wave is being driven primarily by the more-transmissible B.1.1.7, or Kent, variant, which now accounts for three quarters of all cases in Germany. That variant, as its name suggests, originated in Britain, and was responsible for the huge surge in new infections here in December.



Moreover, both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines currently in use in Britain have been shown to be effective against the B.1.1.7 variant. With more than half the UK adult population now vaccinated – the far more vulnerable half – there seems limited scope for a runaway third wave of infections in Britain.

I read this , hope it gives a little comfort.good luck
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I agree that I can't see why there would be a significant surge here as a result of a surge in Europe. There may well be a rise in infections if it gets in, but the most serious should be mitigated by the vaccinations. The hospitalisations shouldn't rise as obviously.

It was an odd thing to come out with, and I assume this will come up when he faces the media.
 
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roubaixtuesday said:
Not seen that, but recalling that the "common cold" could be any one of dozens of viruses, it seems... ...unlikely.

Is the source reputable?
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I saw it reported too - Uni of Glasgow it appears
www.bbc.com

Coronavirus: How the common cold can boot out Covid

It looks like the viruses that cause colds wins in the battle to infect our cells.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

Looks like when exposed to both, coronavirus made no impression, or very little.
 
feelymcfeel said:
Shameful? Really?

Economics 101 mate.

And after 12 months of zero business you're seriously going to give grief for wanting to make as much money back, as quickly as possible? Dear me.
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Well, very few people have increased incomes. I would think the search for a quick buck will impact on demand in the future. It's not rational but then it is a market with a lot of sellers.

It's not 'economics' either, as such. Unless the 5 years I spent studying another subject.
 
Healdplace said:
Btw anyone have any thoughts on this story about the common cold being able to boot Covid out of people?
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Anecdotally I had a 'fair to middling' cold last week and still have flipping long covid.
But as mentioned above, countless varieties of the common cold.

As an aside, my lad has picked up a cold and he mentioned lots of his class mates have too.
Guess this is perfectly normal them all heading back together.
 
Healdplace said:
112 all settings deaths

5379 cases

up 37 day to day and 95 week to week

1, 169 , 000 tests - way down 700 k or so on yesterday


Not sure of the significance of cases being so flat almost regardless of gigantic day to day shifts in test numbers by over half a million.
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these LFD in schools are really buggering up the numbers now.

on one hand you have a very steady state of PCR tests these last few weeks, following a very steady repeating pattern from Monday to Sunday (i suspect this is now primarily regular staff testing and much less ad-hoc members of the public? a guess).

on the other hand you have huge fluctuations in the school tests as some do particular days of the week. There were a million LFD tests yesterday and 1.8m on Sunday. on Sunday they found ca. 1900 +ves (for what it's worth) and today in the LFD they found another 2k +ves. So yeah, any case reductions in population are likely to be buoyed by the schools for a while. I expect in Easter hols we'll see more jumping around all over the place. it's getting very very hard with cases now.

edit: furthermore, if you look at cases by test type by specimen date, i would say the PCR tests are going steadily down but still adhere to the few days behind principle. However when you throw in the LFD obviously they are much much closer to the reporting date number, so you are now mixing two very different data streams in the cases by date reported;

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the reason the case numbers by reporting date are not <3,500 is the LFD spike at the end of that graph.
 
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cleavers said:
What is the point, ours isn't going to allow any travel until at least May 17th anyway..
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there will be many points as to why, first and foremost, I would hope' would be the perceived health risk.
Another would be the brownie points the politicians get from the various travel related businesses in Spain.
The list of points could be many fold.
 
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