Harry Kane

We've been playing false 9 as Aguero has missed pretty much the entire season and it suits our other options better.

Do you think that's the reason? You could well be correct and we will go back to the 17/18 system. Although we have seen Jesus excel in that system so I think there may be more to it.

I thought Pep liked the extra safety of the striker dropping into midfield to limit transition leading to us being counterattacked.
 
Do you think that's the reason? You could well be correct and we will go back to the 17/18 system. Although we have seen Jesus excel in that system so I think there may be more to it.

I thought Pep liked the extra safety of the striker dropping into midfield to limit transition leading to us being counterattacked.
That's exactly the reason. Guardiola didn't use it when we had Aguero available (even when playing Jesus or Sterling) as our default was playing with a striker. He only used it at Bayern when Lewandowski was unavailable. It's a system he's used to get the best out of the likes of Messi, Muller, Bernardo, Foden, Mahrez etc as the central attacker, not a core principle. You should look at what Ancelotti said about us the other day, it's very accurate, we don't have a set identity, shape or way of playing, we've a number of different approaches with the same set of core principles underlying them all. False 9 is one of those approaches, not a core principle.
 
@aguero93:20 wrote:

“That's exactly the reason. Guardiola didn't use it when we had Aguero available (even when playing Jesus or Sterling) as our default was playing with a striker. He only used it at Bayern when Lewandowski was unavailable. It's a system he's used to get the best out of the likes of Messi, Muller, Bernardo, Foden, Mahrez etc as the central attacker, not a core principle. You should look at what Ancelotti said about us the other day, it's very accurate, we don't have a set identity, shape or way of playing, we've a number of different approaches with the same set of core principles underlying them all. False 9 is one of those approaches, not a core principle.”

In most games, we play multiple systems and configurations during the game, unless the opening gambit pays off very quickly.

The more difficult part for opponents is that players like to know which man and which space are they responsible for. With City, that’s impossible to achieve. One minute your man is right midfield, the next he is on the left wing. You try to pass him off, but then you’re never quite sure who is marking whom, and therein lies the space to exploit via ball movement.

The fluidity and intelligence of the players within the system is what creates the confusion, and thus the opportunities.

Pep says it, as people don’t believe it because they think he is being coy, but it is ALL about the quality (technical and football intellect) of the players!

Established players will openly tell you that Pep taught them how to play football. They’ll regale you with how he improved their reading of, and movement within, the game.

THAT is the genius he was displaying in that first season, where the world thought “He can’t adapt to English football!”

It wasn’t that he couldn’t adapt to English football, it was that players playing in England were taking time to adapt to the way Pep KNEW football could, and should, be played...even in kick and run England!

Once he had done key players in place, playing the basic style he wanted to play, it allowed him to start painting bigger, more intricate paintings on the green canvas.

Today, even though he is credited with being a Spanish Master, and a German Impressionist, he has been exalted to being the best British landscape artist of all time.

While some people still see his work as Pollock, the people who understand the game know he is Da Vinci...or, in English terms, Turner, with total control over light and shade, with a complete understanding of the landscape in which he is painting.

He is a Master, but even he could only squeeze a few brushstrokes out of the oil left in Kane’s tube!
 
Do you think that's the reason? You could well be correct and we will go back to the 17/18 system. Although we have seen Jesus excel in that system so I think there may be more to it.

I thought Pep liked the extra safety of the striker dropping into midfield to limit transition leading to us being counterattacked.
The reason the striker drops into midfield has more to do with having an extra man to out number the opposition so we can play through them. This usually happens when we are playing out from the back under a high press. The striker dropping deep is another passing option to help get the ball up the pitch. So with teams that press well Pep likes the false 9 because the midfielder had more playing ability to bypass the press.

What we are seeing is players that aren't strikers having good ability to get into the box and score like Foden and Mr. Whippy taking the pressure off of not having to play an out and out striker.
 
I feel like Kane’s playing style would suit us down to the ground , he’s very comfortable dropping back in to midfield and also playing with his back to goal .
Which obviously would be good as we play against parked buses most weeks .
Doesn’t need space to run in too .
He’d score bags of goals for us and compliment our other forwards well .
But when you consider his age , injury record ( a lot of ankle issues ) , playing time over the years (been ran in to the ground a bit )
And massive price tag levy would command , it seems there is a lot going against it .
If he had a year left on his contract and we could get him for say 70 mill , I think would be a no brainer.
Just not sure we’ll spend the 120 mill or so required when you consider all the things I mentioned .
Especially with a younger haaland around .
That being said though I’d be happy with Kane at city , he’s an amazing player .
 
@aguero93:20 wrote:

“That's exactly the reason. Guardiola didn't use it when we had Aguero available (even when playing Jesus or Sterling) as our default was playing with a striker. He only used it at Bayern when Lewandowski was unavailable. It's a system he's used to get the best out of the likes of Messi, Muller, Bernardo, Foden, Mahrez etc as the central attacker, not a core principle. You should look at what Ancelotti said about us the other day, it's very accurate, we don't have a set identity, shape or way of playing, we've a number of different approaches with the same set of core principles underlying them all. False 9 is one of those approaches, not a core principle.”

In most games, we play multiple systems and configurations during the game, unless the opening gambit pays off very quickly.

The more difficult part for opponents is that players like to know which man and which space are they responsible for. With City, that’s impossible to achieve. One minute your man is right midfield, the next he is on the left wing. You try to pass him off, but then you’re never quite sure who is marking whom, and therein lies the space to exploit via ball movement.

The fluidity and intelligence of the players within the system is what creates the confusion, and thus the opportunities.

Pep says it, as people don’t believe it because they think he is being coy, but it is ALL about the quality (technical and football intellect) of the players!

Established players will openly tell you that Pep taught them how to play football. They’ll regale you with how he improved their reading of, and movement within, the game.

THAT is the genius he was displaying in that first season, where the world thought “He can’t adapt to English football!”

It wasn’t that he couldn’t adapt to English football, it was that players playing in England were taking time to adapt to the way Pep KNEW football could, and should, be played...even in kick and run England!

Once he had done key players in place, playing the basic style he wanted to play, it allowed him to start painting bigger, more intricate paintings on the green canvas.

Today, even though he is credited with being a Spanish Master, and a German Impressionist, he has been exalted to being the best British landscape artist of all time.

While some people still see his work as Pollock, the people who understand the game know he is Da Vinci...or, in English terms, Turner, with total control over light and shade, with a complete understanding of the landscape in which he is painting.

He is a Master, but even he could only squeeze a few brushstrokes out of the oil left in Kane’s tube!
I think Martin Keown meant to say something like that but the best his mind and vocabulary could process was “De Bruyne has paintbrushes on his feet”
 
NTHK

No To Harry Kane

Would absolutely destroy the balance of our squad with his "all about me attitude"
Craves the attention of the media circus and laps it up.

Spuds my have had a chance of winning that Champions League Final if that hadn't bowed to Kane's whims after he
declared himself fit when clearly he wasn't.

Also hate the way he cheats, no room in God's team for any of that palaver
 
NTHK

No To Harry Kane

Would absolutely destroy the balance of our squad with his "all about me attitude"
Craves the attention of the media circus and laps it up.

Spuds my have had a chance of winning that Champions League Final if that hadn't bowed to Kane's whims after he
declared himself fit when clearly he wasn't.

Also hate the way he cheats, no room in God's team for any of that palaver

NTHK

No To Harry Kane

Would absolutely destroy the balance of our squad with his "all about me attitude"
Craves the attention of the media circus and laps it up.

Spuds my have had a chance of winning that Champions League Final if that hadn't bowed to Kane's whims after he
declared himself fit when clearly he wasn't.

Also hate the way he cheats, no room in God's team for any of that palaver
 
I like him but not what we'd have to pay and the years we'd get out of him. He's Mahrez's age now when we bought him in 2018 and would be probably 2 and a half times the price. It's strange some don't like his attitude though as I'd liken it very similarly to Haaland when on the pitch both are ruthless in front of goal and shall we say blinkered to team mates at times. It's a flaw and what makes great strikers great just look at Lewandowski. I'm not saying a better option than Haaland far from it with Haaland's age, price, ceiling, attitude and the fact his dad is a former blue just shows he'd be the better acquisition but I wouldn't be gutted if we got Kane. I would hate lining that prick Levy's pockets mind!
 
I like him but not what we'd have to pay and the years we'd get out of him. He's Mahrez's age now when we bought him in 2018 and would be probably 2 and a half times the price. It's strange some don't like his attitude though as I'd liken it very similarly to Haaland when on the pitch both are ruthless in front of goal and shall we say blinkered to team mates at times. It's a flaw and what makes great strikers great just look at Lewandowski. I'm not saying a better option than Haaland far from it with Haaland's age, price, ceiling, attitude and the fact his dad is a former blue just shows he'd be the better acquisition but I wouldn't be gutted if we got Kane. I would hate lining that prick Levy's pockets mind!
Last time I looked he was close to the top of the assists charts so selfishness wouldn’t appear to be a fair criticism. The guy drops deep all the time and his link up play is second to none. Fantastic finisher also. Unlike Haaland he’s proven in the Premier League. Would be an immense signing imo, but the fee is likely to be a major stumbling block, so probably not happening unless Kane is willing to push for a move.
 
Kane has done an interview where he says he will decide his future after the euros. Very telling imo usually he doesn’t even entertain the prospect of leaving his beloved spurs. If we can’t land Haaland kane is the next best option, can’t believe he is only 27.

 
Kane has done an interview where he says he will decide his future after the euros. Very telling imo usually he doesn’t even entertain the prospect of leaving his beloved spurs. If we can’t land Haaland kane is the next best option, can’t believe he is only 27.


It’s Levy who will decide not you Kane after you signed a contract that ends when your 31...
 
True. But if your captain goes on record and says he wants to leave it will be very hard to keep the player.

I wouldn't even think that matters because it comes down to the fact that Levy will always try to cash in on a player while they still command a high fee.

Kane's coming off another great season but he'll be 28 by the start of the next one and his injuries will more than likely start to pile up soon.

The realistic amount that a club will pay for him will have already been slowly declining but it's going to drop off dramatically if he's still at Spurs by the end of next season and I'm pretty sure they'll look to cash in and reinvest.
 
I wouldn't even think that matters because it comes down to the fact that Levy will always try to cash in on a player while they still command a high fee.

Kane's coming off another great season but he'll be 28 by the start of the next one and his injuries will more than likely start to pile up soon.

The realistic amount that a club will pay for him will have already been slowly declining but it's going to drop off dramatically if he's still at Spurs by the end of next season and I'm pretty sure they'll look to cash in an reinvest.

Don’t disagree with you. But for some reason I have a strong feeling we will be in for him. He’s overplayed at Spurs and that has contributed to his injuries. That wouldn’t happen at City. I get the argument about his age and fee but he is a brilliant CF and would score an absolute shit load in our team.
 

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