New Champions League format

bumbleblue said:
I wonder if our club is in favour and how it will actually look, because I can’t see how that not allowing certain clubs to trade with each other can be legal?
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As a guess the teams behind this are the Italians and PL teams but not us.

Why Its hard to get in the UCL via the italian league and the Milan clubs and Roma maybe think they want a pass. They also want more money as the Italian League is falling behind.

The PL clubs want more money and a pass - possibly the best and most indebted.

Spanish clubs need the money and the pass helps them with debt issues so maybe they want it.
 
Gaudion M said:
As a guess the teams behind this are the Italians and PL teams but not us.

Why Its hard to get in the UCL via the italian league and the Milan clubs and Roma maybe think they want a pass. They also want more money as the Italian League is falling behind.

The PL clubs want more money and a pass - possibly the best and most indebted.

Spanish clubs need the money and the pass helps them with debt issues so maybe they want it.
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As I thought, it is all about MONEY.
 
Gray said:
As I thought, it is all about MONEY.
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Thats what it’s been about since the European Cup became a league. History clubs were getting worried they were missing out some years. Now that some are missing out more years than not they want to change the rules again.

It‘s another step towards a ‘super’ league for clubs who last won their league about a decade ago, were good in the 70s and 80s or have a lot of internet fans in Malaysia.

It‘s all a load of shit.
 
Transfers will be banned, between teams in this? How does that work with restraint of trade.

The idea that a team can finish mid-table and get in this through the backdoor and at the expense of an achieving team, goes against everything that a competition should be.

How can this be forced in, with the necessary consultation?
 
Gaudion M said:
Why Its hard to get in the UCL via the italian league and the Milan clubs and Roma maybe think they want a pass.
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They'll be in for a shock then, Roma are highest ranked at 17th with 6 PL clubs ahead of them and only 2 proposed wildcards.
 
Freedom of Trade, becomes restriction of trade, and operating like a Cartel.

European law forbids this.

Will they all sign a disclaimer i wonder, or will it be non binding legal wise if challenged.

Hence the catchy cartel phrase " Solidarity".............. fellow Comrades
 



Set to be agreed today.


It's going to affect the league cup the most as it takes up those slots. Can see the EFL starting the competition sooner (before the league season) or allowing European teams a bye to the 4th round.


Most top teams are going to need 22 very good players once this comes in.
 
The big issue with the new format is the co-efficient wild card for teams. This will have a huge impact on domestic leagues. How can a team finishing as low as 7th leap frog a team that finishes 5th,its a terrible idea.
 
In recent years I have felt less and less inclined to go to the group games - but this will push me over the edge.
No thanks from me! Leave it to the tourists.
 
So the wildcard is based on co-efficient.

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't co-efficient based on, well, actually playing in the competition? So if you get a wildcard, you then play the competition, boost your co-efficient, and then next year... have the best co-efficient of the non-qualifiers?

Doesn't this just mean the same teams will consistently get the wildcards until they qualify naturally anyway?

That doesn't feel like much of a "wild" card if it's simply an extension of 2 teams that are normally in the competition each year anyway.
 
BlueMedic said:
So the wildcard is based on co-efficient.

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't co-efficient based on, well, actually playing in the competition? So if you get a wildcard, you then play the competition, boost your co-efficient, and then next year... have the best co-efficient of the non-qualifiers?

Doesn't this just mean the same teams will consistently get the wildcards until they qualify naturally anyway?

That doesn't feel like much of a "wild" card if it's simply an extension of 2 teams that are normally in the competition each year anyway.
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Yeah, thats exactly what it means. So it means UEFA cronies don't have to worry about Arsenal, United, Liverpool making top 4 every year. They can guarantee those clubs this way.

This also benefits City too as we have the highest English coefficient and most likely that will remain the case in 2024 too. That doesn't make this idea any better of course.
 
BlueMedic said:
So the wildcard is based on co-efficient.

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't co-efficient based on, well, actually playing in the competition? So if you get a wildcard, you then play the competition, boost your co-efficient, and then next year... have the best co-efficient of the non-qualifiers?

Doesn't this just mean the same teams will consistently get the wildcards until they qualify naturally anyway?

That doesn't feel like much of a "wild" card if it's simply an extension of 2 teams that are normally in the competition each year anyway.
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Depends how they revamp it, they may give even more weight to past winners.

As it stands though it is pretty much teams already Europe. Probably means 5th and 6th in the premier league will nearly always get a spot.
 
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Even more reason to win it ASAP before it becomes even more of a farce than it already is.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
Yeah, thats exactly what it means. So it means UEFA cronies don't have to worry about Arsenal, United, Liverpool making top 4 every year. They can guarantee those clubs this way.

This also benefits City too as we have the highest English coefficient and most likely that will remain the case in 2024 too. That doesn't make this idea any better of course.
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It is 2 teams in the whole of Europe, Arsenal wouldn't stand a chance and United would not qualify, only Liverpool as they won the trophy 2 years ago, however that won't be the case for long.

It is bollocks that we have more boring group games which the fans will get fleeced for. SD, CSKA and Porto for 6 games every year.
 
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