Wishy washy policing

stonerblue said:
So what if it was the day after? Most people are arrested after the event. The point is they WERE arrested.

To be perfectly clear, having a differing opinion to yours and posting facts about something you brought up is not arguing.

I'm perfectly fine with coppers deciding that 4 bobbies and a pcso (exaggeration to make a point) couldn't safely disperse 3000 people so let them dance until 1am in a field in the middle of nowhere.
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Fair enough. I don't think enough people were arrested at that event or pretty much any of the others.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Yes.

I've also begun to realise that our nation is full of absolute twats. It's permeated with them. From silly things yesterday like me being stuck in the outside lane because some dickhead decides he wants to do 60 in a 70 limit, blocking the entire lane and then because I was stuck in the outside lane behind about 10 cars, trying to get left to make my turn off, another dickhead refuses to let me in after 1/4 mile of me indicating. And then when I push myself in - because I have to - he gives me the Vs. What an absolute twat.

Then at the supermarket, the woman with 3 loaves of the reduced bread under her arm sees me arriving about to take the remaining one, and snatches it away when my hand is like a foot away, leaving me with no bread. What a ****.

The country is jam packed with them. The tossers who truck up at these raves know full well they are illegal, but they have fuck all respect for the law and figure "well, what are the police going to do about it". It's a shite attitude. Maybe if they thought (a) they might actually get fined and (b) the fines were big enough, they might think twice about it.
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Without wanting to get all zen, you have to appreciate that there's balance there.

When the first lockdown came into place, self preservation kicked in and basic consideration for others went out the window. Not only were selfish twats filling up multiple trolleys with a ridiculous amount of toilet roll and dried goods but there were people genuinely hanging about the bottom of Hathersage Road outside the MRI trying to pinch NHS passes off staff as they left the building. Absolutely dispicable behaviour and, yes, it does make you take a more cynical approach.

But it must be said that there are plenty of people out there doing good. I'm not talking about tokenistic gestures like standing outside and clapping but there are charitable organisations looking to help as well as individuals looking to help where they can. In our area, there were people going door to door and leaving contact details to offer their services by getting shopping for people at risk.

I think some people, like you and I, are seemingly more wired to pick up on the negative interactions and ignore the good deeds. If you're driving and someone lets you pass before them (might not be a good example, I don't drive) then you're going to forget about it two minutes later when some dickhead inevitably swerves in front of you and cuts you off.

Also, something I don't think you're taking into consideration is that you can put whatever fine or whatever strongly worded statement out there that you want and a lot of young people will still ignore it. They're still at a point in their lives where they feel invincible and they've not necessarily had the experience of seeing their actions come back to bite themselves or others on the arse.

Again, there's a flip side to that and there are plenty of young people out their acting responsibility and doing more than their part to help others.

This is why I made those comments about social media and the news at large. The focus is on the negatives because that will always bring the most attention. At times when we're so deprived of regular human interaction, I think it's important to take yourself out of this image being painted for us and simply interact with what we can, when we can.

There's enough to be aggrieved about in our day to day lives without allowing carefully selected information to further dishearten us than is necessary. I'm not saying you should be wilfully ignorant but you aren't currently going to find a worldview online that will adequately replace the life you lead before covid.

So limit what you're reading and be critical when you do read it because it is borderline impossible to not react emotionally to the things being put in front of you when they're being put in front of you to provoke an emotional reaction.

For every tosser out there, there's a genuinely good person. Some good people break the law and some tossers uphold it.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Yes.

I've also begun to realise that our nation is full of absolute twats. It's permeated with them. From silly things yesterday like me being stuck in the outside lane because some dickhead decides he wants to do 60 in a 70 limit, blocking the entire lane and then because I was stuck in the outside lane behind about 10 cars, trying to get left to make my turn off, another dickhead refuses to let me in after 1/4 mile of me indicating. And then when I push myself in - because I have to - he gives me the Vs. What an absolute twat.

Then at the supermarket, the woman with 3 loaves of the reduced bread under her arm sees me arriving about to take the remaining one, and snatches it away when my hand is like a foot away, leaving me with no bread. What a ****.

The country is jam packed with them. The tossers who truck up at these raves know full well they are illegal, but they have fuck all respect for the law and figure "well, what are the police going to do about it". It's a shite attitude. Maybe if they thought (a) they might actually get fined and (b) the fines were big enough, they might think twice about it.
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I feel your pain.
 
FantasyIreland said:
www.lbc.co.uk

Police break up Good Friday church service in Balham, London, for breaching Covid rules | LBC

Police broke up a Good Friday church service in south-west London last night for breaching coronavirus regulations.
www.lbc.co.uk www.lbc.co.uk

Seriously? i am a huge supporter of all things Police,but this is just fucking farcical...talk about an easy target.
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It all lies at the feet of the government I’m afraid. Avoiding parliament at every opportunity (sooner we leave the EU and get our sovereignty back the better.....), so they make ’laws’ and issue ‘guidance‘ and think the two things are interchangeable which, of course, they aren’t.
Your average copper has no idea what is ‘Covid law‘ and what isn’t, anymore than you average MP or journalist does and, as usual, they’ve largely been left to hang out to dry by their bosses.
 
FantasyIreland said:
www.lbc.co.uk

Police break up Good Friday church service in Balham, London, for breaching Covid rules | LBC

Police broke up a Good Friday church service in south-west London last night for breaching coronavirus regulations.
www.lbc.co.uk www.lbc.co.uk

Seriously? i am a huge supporter of all things Police,but this is just fucking farcical...talk about an easy target.
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That is bad. What's very surprising about it, is it probably wasn't even illegal and the police were probably wrong to claim that it was.

I suggest this because my sister was going to a bar mitzvah of a close friend's son a few weeks back and about 40 people were going to be there. As I am a stickler for the rules, I was pretty appalled to be honest... until I checked up on the laws and they do not preclude religious gathering at all, so long as appropriate distancing measures can be implemented.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
It all lies at the feet of the government I’m afraid. Avoiding parliament at every opportunity (sooner we leave the EU and get our sovereignty back the better.....), so they make ’laws’ and issue ‘guidance‘ and think the two things are interchangeable which, of course, they aren’t.
Your average copper has no idea what is ‘Covid law‘ and what isn’t, anymore than you average MP or journalist does and, as usual, they’ve largely been left to hang out to dry by their bosses.
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I have to say I completely agree with that. The one thing the government has done well on with this crisis is the vaccination program. Everything else has been a complete fuck up.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
It all lies at the feet of the government I’m afraid. Avoiding parliament at every opportunity (sooner we leave the EU and get our sovereignty back the better.....), so they make ’laws’ and issue ‘guidance‘ and think the two things are interchangeable which, of course, they aren’t.
Your average copper has no idea what is ‘Covid law‘ and what isn’t, anymore than you average MP or journalist does and, as usual, they’ve largely been left to hang out to dry by their bosses.
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100%......Police Chiefs should be backing their officers not throwing them to the Wolves.As above,it probably wasnt even unlawful.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Yes.

I've also begun to realise that our nation is full of absolute twats. It's permeated with them.
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When the promotion of individualism and the destruction of communities happens I am not sure what you really expected.
Chippy_boy said:
From silly things yesterday like me being stuck in the outside lane because some dickhead decides he wants to do 60 in a 70 limit, blocking the entire lane and then because I was stuck in the outside lane behind about 10 cars, trying to get left to make my turn off, another dickhead refuses to let me in after 1/4 mile of me indicating. And then when I push myself in - because I have to - he gives me the Vs. What an absolute twat.
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When the promotion of individualism and the destruction of communities happens I am not sure what you really expected.
Chippy_boy said:
Then at the supermarket, the woman with 3 loaves of the reduced bread under her arm sees me arriving about to take the remaining one, and snatches it away when my hand is like a foot away, leaving me with no bread. What a ****.
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When the promotion of individualism and the destruction of communities happens I am not sure what you really expected.
Chippy_boy said:
The country is jam packed with them. The tossers who truck up at these raves know full well they are illegal, but they have fuck all respect for the law
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When the promotion of individualism and the destruction of communities happens I am not sure what you really expected.
Chippy_boy said:
and figure "well, what are the police going to do about it". It's a shite attitude. Maybe if they thought (a) they might actually get fined and (b) the fines were big enough, they might think twice about it.
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When the promotion of individualism and the destruction of communities happens I am not sure what you really expected.


You voted for the people who have done this to the country. Destroying communities where people learn respect from their elders, they learnt values of the community, they acted in the interests of the community, the party you voted for destroyed all that and promoted rampant individualism.

The individual has learnt to look after themselves, because their are no guiding lights, their are no moral arbiters, their are no role models. All there is selfish pursuit of an illusory UK version of the American dream.

You voted for that, you voted for it and now you have the temerity to whinge about what you voted for.

Instead of being ashamed at what you voted for, you know seek scapegoats for your poor judgement. You have seen the country disintegrate around you but you still voted for them and you expect everyone who has suffered under the appalling rule of these cunts to feel sympathy for you. I am sorry Chippy lad, but you are reaping what you were sewn. I do feel sorry for you that you bought the nonsense spouted by the party you voted for, because it must hurt, you expected better, but you are just a useful idiot for the corrupt Capitalists raping and pillaging our country.
 
Rascal said:
When the promotion of individualism and the destruction of communities happens I am not sure what you really expected.

When the promotion of individualism and the destruction of communities happens I am not sure what you really expected.

When the promotion of individualism and the destruction of communities happens I am not sure what you really expected.

When the promotion of individualism and the destruction of communities happens I am not sure what you really expected.

When the promotion of individualism and the destruction of communities happens I am not sure what you really expected.


You voted for the people who have done this to the country. Destroying communities where people learn respect from their elders, they learnt values of the community, they acted in the interests of the community, the party you voted for destroyed all that and promoted rampant individualism.

The individual has learnt to look after themselves, because their are no guiding lights, their are no moral arbiters, their are no role models. All there is selfish pursuit of an illusory UK version of the American dream.

You voted for that, you voted for it and now you have the temerity to whinge about what you voted for.

Instead of being ashamed at what you voted for, you know seek scapegoats for your poor judgement. You have seen the country disintegrate around you but you still voted for them and you expect everyone who has suffered under the appalling rule of these cunts to feel sympathy for you. I am sorry Chippy lad, but you are reaping what you were sewn. I do feel sorry for you that you bought the nonsense spouted by the party you voted for, because it must hurt, you expected better, but you are just a useful idiot for the corrupt Capitalists raping and pillaging our country.
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Rascal, you're talking utter bollocks as per. Of course I didn't vote for any of that you numpty. You may have noticed that the voting options on the table are rather binary and I voted for the "let's not bankrupt the country nor fleece the middle-earners" party. Simple as that.

As the rest of your rant? You're simply round the twist, that is all there is to it.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Rascal, you're talking utter bollocks as per. Of course I didn't vote for any of that you numpty. You may have noticed that the voting options on the table are rather binary and I voted for the "let's not bankrupt the country nor fleece the middle-earners" party. Simple as that.

As the rest of your rant? You're simply round the twist, that is all there is to it.
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Yep,the man is ill.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Yes.

I've also begun to realise that our nation is full of absolute twats. It's permeated with them. From silly things yesterday like me being stuck in the outside lane because some dickhead decides he wants to do 60 in a 70 limit, blocking the entire lane and then because I was stuck in the outside lane behind about 10 cars, trying to get left to make my turn off, another dickhead refuses to let me in after 1/4 mile of me indicating. And then when I push myself in - because I have to - he gives me the Vs. What an absolute twat.

Then at the supermarket, the woman with 3 loaves of the reduced bread under her arm sees me arriving about to take the remaining one, and snatches it away when my hand is like a foot away, leaving me with no bread. What a ****.

The country is jam packed with them. The tossers who truck up at these raves know full well they are illegal, but they have fuck all respect for the law and figure "well, what are the police going to do about it". It's a shite attitude. Maybe if they thought (a) they might actually get fined and (b) the fines were big enough, they might think twice about it.
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Maybe it’s just people don’t like you.....

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stonerblue said:
Surely this is nothing new to you two?
Bad drivers, litter louts, protesters, knobheads, young twats, old twats, etc etc have been around all my life.
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It maybe my patience is getting less,but i believe society is far more selfish, and individuals lack far more responsibility for themselves,than ever before.

It isnt a pleasant country to live in currently.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Then at the supermarket, the woman with 3 loaves of the reduced bread under her arm sees me arriving about to take the remaining one, and snatches it away when my hand is like a foot away, leaving me with no bread. What a ****.
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Tight fisted fucker.
 
FantasyIreland said:
It maybe my patience is getting less,but i believe society is far more selfish, and individuals lack far more responsibility for themselves,than ever before.

It isnt a pleasant country to live in currently.
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Took my dog out this morning and bumped into 'the radcliffe litter pickers' volunteer group. About 50 of em, all types and ages going round tidying up the town.
Thousands volunteered for covid duty.

I could go on with the good news shit because there's a lot of it about.

It's understandable that people are frustrated after a year of lockdown, especially if they've been cooped up alone or with people they don't get on with.
 
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