We have been the poster child for the idea that any club can dare to dream.I cannot despise the cartel with the hatred I have for the last 8/9 years and happily watch City sit side by side with them doing just the same
I’ll be fuvkin done make no mistake
I said years ago that the TV revenue meant that eventually fans would be paid to attend to provide atmosphere. But Covid means they can do that at the press of a button. And Covid has already broken the addiction for many, who (even if it's safe) will never go back.You may disapprove of the new generation of football fans who support their chosen club from behind a screen in their homes. But they are there. In volume. And their interest represents a big payday for the club(s). It is delusional to suppose that clubs of the stature of those involved in this breakaway tournament will attract little support. The revenues will be huge. Those fans who will walk away are the old timers who have bought season tickets for many years. Losing them is tragic from a fan perspective, but the money will still flow into the clubs regardless. And a new generation will occupy the vacated seats at the Etihad too. Especially if the clubs price access within reach of less well-off younger fans. Dynamic pricing software means that seats can be priced to sell these days.
Money is coming from JP Morgan. Dazan apparently have the TV rightsBefore everyone condemns our club, it is blatantly clear this has been led by the American owners and we have reluctantly signed up with the worry of being left behind if we don't. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. Perhaps I am being naive but signing up for it does not necessarily mean we want it to happen.
Can someone tell me where the £3bn is coming from? Have TV cos already indicated how much they will pay?
That’s not true in English.Sorry SWP's back, but even a bit pissed at 03:00 the use of 'is' is actually correct.
City is a singular term, therefore 'is' is the correct way to refer to us. For example 'John is a twat' means that this John is a twat in the same way that City is a founding member means that City is a founding member.
Fuck me I need to go to bed
None of them, ever again.I think they’ll happily walk away from the premier league
city v united
Liverpool v real
Chelsea v Milan
Arsenal v Real Madrid
Leeds v Burnley
Everton v Newcastle
Villa v wolves
Brentford v palace
which games would you watch over the weekend?
At least Dan Roan did his report from outside the Swamp.As if the media didn't need another reason to give us a kicking. You can imagine Delaney, Harris, Castles, Schindler, Conn etc etc. They'll be like dogs with two sets of bollocks to lick. The only thing is that their beloved clubs are also party to this grubby idea. Welcome to the new (footballing) world order.
I take it from that post you work in finance?
Ignore everything that matters.... because, y'know, money!!
These clubs are a manifestation of the communities, of the supporters. Do you understand that?
OUR clubs are being taken from us, because of greed.
Great point, the attitude of both teams on Saturday makes me feel the players and staff were not too impressed with the news.Has any manager/player of any of the 12 made any comment on this corporate carve up yet? Or has the biggest story in world football seen then gagged?
just some idle speculation... but from the lack of enthusiasm on display on Saturday at Wembley, was it known to them at that point?
How would those opposed to this feel if this was the plan all along? The Sheikh knew eventually this would be formed, and his investment comes home to roost? The players we've been lucky to see, the trophies those players have given us, through that investment. How would you feel about all that if this was the long game from day one?
It destroys the meritocratic ethos of football, dilutes the significance of Premier League games between top clubs, almost certainly kills off both domestic cups and destabilises one of the strongest pyramids in world football.I'm not as against this as everybody else. I'm not entirely convinced by it but I don't think it's a disgusting outrage either.
Firstly let's get real for a moment. Football has been broken since the 1990s. People talk like we're in the 1960s where all the clubs could have a similar chance of competition. We aren't and we haven't been for decades. A Leicester could happen once but the idea that you can build a sustainable challenger to the league using your academy, good management and transfer guile is farcical. United saw to that many years ago - to compete you need a billionaire to invest in you. That's the broken part, by the way. That you need that to begin with. The English game has been financially lopsided and killed competition 20 years ago.
So the competitive morality out of the way, we look at other things such as what will happen to poor Stoke and Burnley? Nothing, presumably. More to the point, I give as much of a fuck for their future as they did for us when we were going bankrupt. My emotions are tied to Man City and whats best for them.
The Super League is what's best for City. As a founding member, we're now one of the big boys forever. If there's a revolution in the UAE tomorrow and Shiekh Mansour/his family is deposed and he's forced to sell the club then its no problem. We're in the tent pissing out, permanently. The fact that we get to fuck UEFA on the way past is icing on the cake.
My only actual concern here is for the fans. It sounds like potentially 18 European away games to the final and you just know that the Final is more likely to be in Beijing than Birmingham. Affordability is going to be a significant issue and it's the only thing that's making me doubt it. If the club did something like a European equivalent of subsidised coaches then I'd be happier with it.
But yeah. It guarantees our post UAE future, it establishes us as one of the world's biggest clubs, it fucks UEFA, it will be the competition all the biggest players want to play in, it will earn us fucking bank, what's not to like?
Fair enough pal, I had misunderstood the point you were making.Hence the word “hypocrisy.”
Do you think that he Billionaire Clubs want to share their money with the dregs of their leagues? Do you think they want to even play their €100M players against them?
The STRUCTURE of football needs changing, because the money is changing it in ways that those with the power AS the money comes pouring in are changing it FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR OWN BENEFIT, not the game itself!
That’s probably our owners point of view. Mine is were becoming a part of the closed shop, greedy, snakey elite which we have despised for 10 years. I want more billionaires to invest in the likes of West Ham/Newcastle/Villa so the likes of Liverpool/United/Arsenal are just history boys, they’ve had their turn at the top, let some others have a go. This will never happen now and we’ll see the same teams at the top of global football for years. It’s a depressing thought and I don’t quite understand how some City fans can warm to the idea.I'm not as against this as everybody else. I'm not entirely convinced by it but I don't think it's a disgusting outrage either.
Firstly let's get real for a moment. Football has been broken since the 1990s. People talk like we're in the 1960s where all the clubs could have a similar chance of competition. We aren't and we haven't been for decades. A Leicester could happen once but the idea that you can build a sustainable challenger to the league using your academy, good management and transfer guile is farcical. United saw to that many years ago - to compete you need a billionaire to invest in you. That's the broken part, by the way. That you need that to begin with. The English game has been financially lopsided and killed competition 20 years ago.
So the competitive morality out of the way, we look at other things such as what will happen to poor Stoke and Burnley? Nothing, presumably. More to the point, I give as much of a fuck for their future as they did for us when we were going bankrupt. My emotions are tied to Man City and whats best for them.
The Super League is what's best for City. As a founding member, we're now one of the big boys forever. If there's a revolution in the UAE tomorrow and Shiekh Mansour/his family is deposed and he's forced to sell the club then its no problem. We're in the tent pissing out, permanently. The fact that we get to fuck UEFA on the way past is icing on the cake.
My only actual concern here is for the fans. It sounds like potentially 18 European away games to the final and you just know that the Final is more likely to be in Beijing than Birmingham. Affordability is going to be a significant issue and it's the only thing that's making me doubt it. If the club did something like a European equivalent of subsidised coaches then I'd be happier with it.
But yeah. It guarantees our post UAE future, it establishes us as one of the world's biggest clubs, it fucks UEFA, it will be the competition all the biggest players want to play in, it will earn us fucking bank, what's not to like?
What an eye opener about how powerless, and meaningless, we the fans have become at our own club.
We have no clout, no say, not even any connections. The club has lost touch with us then lost touch with itself.
Everything we've fought for, suffered through, hoped and built towards sold for pittance - and the fans are left to pick up the pieces.
I'd sooner see our owners fuck off and we fall into obscurity, relegation and all, than see us rush to join the elite pricks who care more about money than football. My father in law once told me "we'll always have 93:20" but, perhaps, it seems the club has found a way to downplay even that.
He’s known about it for months :-(Sterling clearly knew about it!
It's not a competition. It's a closed shop set up by Clubs who for years have tried to kill us off. No relegation from it.How? I don't understand how us deciding to play in another competition is stealing the club from us