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[jonah62]

So do the cunts in the VAR caravan

 

[Akira]

Why? You think they’ll be playing squash?

They will be playing soccer.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

So we can't dominate in the current format? We can't be a club that stands up for the soul of football?

What if the current format isn't enough for the people upstairs, and they want us in this new competition to even further portray the club and their investment of it? Why would they want to be left behind? And my point, again, is that those complaining were not moaning when that investment was propelling us to that status where we are now. You know the other clubs' fans views of that. So it's quite the thing now then that our own fans are turning their backs on the club because it has decided to use it's current status - created from investment - for further gain.

Go and complain to one of those fans, and I think they will soon shut people down with 'you didn't mind when the oil money came in'. That is exactly what they'll say.

 

[Maly]

Where did they think the end game was then? And as I say, they were ok with being invested in, heavily, enable us to dominate, but now we are being asked to be part of something that domination has made us into, it's bye bye City for them?
Can't have it both ways.

2 completely different things fella. We got to where we are through investment yes, but the investment allowed us into the CL through sporting merit, which is how football has always been run.

If I understand your posts correctly, you’re in agreement that sporting merit shouldn’t be taken into account & you’re happy that football should be a closed shop for 15 clubs who make the most money?

Or have I misunderstood your posts?

 

[domalino]

But you have the 15 shop stewards.

Which is pretty much the same as we have now. There are plenty of clubs that cannot have a season bad enough that they don't qualify for Europe. PSG, Madrid and Bayern will never, ever finish 5th in their leagues.

 

[teddykgb]

If you're really OK with what City and these other clubs are doing you are effectively admitting that you do not give a flying fuck about every other football team in Europe.

Selfish fuckers.

Precisely this. There’s no amount of solidarity payment these greedy clubs will make which can offset being permanent 2nd class citizens. What are Everton worth today after this news? Leicester?

If history actually mattered to these goons and we were inventing a time machine to throw the clock back to some other time when a club like AC Milan mattered then why the fuck are Ajax on the outside of this? Porto or Benfica?

 

[give it to gordon]

Every tom dick and harry now taking piss out of us. We have been reduced to laughing stock

May be but I am fast becoming use to not giving a shit about football or City, so not bothered



Cant believe I feel like this

 

[RandomJ]

Every tom dick and harry now taking piss out of us. We have been reduced to laughing stock

The club are now in the position where they need this to go through. If they find some way to halt these plans they have alienated the fanbase and trashed the clubs reputation for nothing. But I don't think there is any recovering the clubs image. Forever more will we be associated with this.

 

[burning blue soul]

Why? You think they’ll be playing squash?

i dont give a fuck what their game is going to be. just dont describe it as a club of football.

 

[solley attwell]

This thing won't get off the ground. They're is so much opposition from the fans of every club and the national associations that it would never work.
As much as UEFA are a bunch of corrupt cunts it is plain to see that the clubs we are getting into bed with are the same bunch of scroats who tried their damnest to exclude us from European competition and who have been pulling the strings at UEFA for years. But City have a chance to gain the moral high ground by turning their back on the super league and supporting the national game. Leave the others high and dry while we take a moral stand. The good publicity we would get would last longer than the proposed super league.
Not only is this wrong on so many levels , us alligning ourselves with the red alliance actually feels like merger between City and the rags, of which I don't want any part

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

You're probably right but all 6 want throwing out otherwise they'll have succeeded in their blackmail to the cost of the smaller clubs. This is exactly the consequence of UEFA pandering to the G14 instead of facing them down and running football in a more equitable and fair manner. They have been encouraged to the point where they think they can hold a gun to the head of the football world for their own selfish, greedy ends. They have to be dealt with firmly, now, for the good of football as a whole into the future..

Had an interesting conversation with someone I take a good deal of notice of.

The American owned clubs/Barca and Madrid don't have much say in this matter. They always say follow the money...

The power play is not by the clubs, but by the American banks that hold huge amounts of their debt.

Covid has accelerated the concerns of when United, Liverpool and Arsenal can start paying this down more quickly.

JP Morgan and others are essentially paying themselves, fronting the cash for the formation and knowing it is coming straight back to them to pay down those huge debt piles.

They have also made sure these revenue streams last long after the clubs have paid back their debts.

City and Chelsea were seemingly between a rock and hard place of what best served their own interests.

 

[IH8MUFC]

He has a point.

But let's not pretend this **** hasnt made mad coin out of working for a company who have been complicit in "carving the game up" money wise for the past 30 years.

I didnt see him crying his ring up then the hypocritical ****.

If Salford were invited in would be say no? If he was playing today for the Rags would he resign without pay?

He called the owners bottle merchants. Well I don't see any player's immediately quitting over this. They are probably busy negotiating pay rises as I write this.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

2 completely different things fella. We got to where we are through investment yes, but the investment allowed us into the CL through sporting merit, which is how football has always been run.

If I understand your posts correctly, you’re in agreement that sporting merit shouldn’t be taken into account & you’re happy that football should be a closed shop for 15 clubs who make the most money?

Or have I misunderstood your posts?

No, I don't agree it should be this way, but if it is going to be that way for the club, and the good of the club, then so be it. I certainly won't be scouring various parts of Manchester to build a stadium out of pallets and opening it with some fucking shitty open day for all things honkey dory.

 

[fareastblue]

Asians stay up in the wee hours watching live European football played in empty stadiums for a year now. The powerfuls know that they will lose fans and supporters, not audience.

 

[aguero93:20]

Precisely this. There’s no amount of solidarity payment these greedy clubs will make which can offset being permanent 2nd class citizens. What are Everton worth today after this news? Leicester?

If history actually mattered to these goons and we were inventing a time machine to throw the clock back to some other time when a club like AC Milan mattered then why the fuck are Ajax on the outside of this? Porto or Benfica?

Lyon's share price dropped this morning on the back of this news and they might be the second French club mentioned for all we or anyone else knows, I imagine the definite outs like Everton and Leicester will have been worse.

 

[goalmole]

The economics are with the Real Madrid, barcelona, Manchester United and Liverpool because everyone wants to watch them on TV and that generates commercial income.

However, we do not live in a world where corporations get to entirely dictate events. Capitalism is regulated by the state and I find it difficult to believe that this will be allowed to happen. I think we played a watching brief but we joined them in the end.

I would have liked it had City resisted this but perhaps that is looking at this with a supporters eyes. One of our owners is an American investment trust. Our owners are in this for money.

There is now a complete disconnect between the ethics of the game and the economics and the biggest clubs as usual want the biggest piece of pie. I feel that national governments and regulators will not allow this to happen so I am surprised that City joined up. You don't join a doomed and politically damaging initiative but join we did.

This is a classic case of killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

 

[Big-P]

This genuinely feels like a bereavement. This must be similar to what fans of Bury / Wimbledon have felt in the past. Least it’s saved me 700 quid

 

[MCFC1993]

Got to admire Porto's stance, a team that could have quite easily took the money.

 

[Grealish’s Shinpads]

 

[Maly]

No, I don't agree it should be this way, but if it is going to be that way for the club, and the good of the club, then so be it. I certainly won't be scouring various parts of Manchester to build a stadium out of pallets and opening it with some fucking shitty open day for all things honkey dory.

So if it’s good for City but bad for football, you’re happy to back it?