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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
decmancity said:
Well I certainly don't think any of the players give a shit if I go to the game or not or buy a shirt with their name on the back. That died a long long time ago. Footballers have been detached from society for decades.

Footballers are in it for the money, I am under no illusions about that and neither are they. They throw the old bone of charity work and donations but we saw the strength of them when in a pandemic clubs asked for pay cuts and players actively campaigned against it.
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So the question would then be what business does the working class man have in the game anymore? None sadly.
 
Lavinda Past said:
English football sold it's soul in 1992

Football clubs around the world sold their souls when they were bought out by billionaires

Manchester City FC sold it's tradition when the owners dropped the 'FC' from the name

It's a capitalist society - Shit like this happens every day around the world. Winners and losers.

As football fans,what have we actually 'lost'? - Answer, in real terms, a lot less than we will 'gain' in the long term.

Traditional football died in 1992, so what are we crying about now...? The loss of an old friend? I think not.

I'm a traditionalist. I've loved football through the 60s to the present day. I've just loved it a bit less every few years, as it became more and more of a business than a sport. Same with a lot of things in life. The departures of traditional football men like Wardle and Bernstein signalled the beginning end for me, but even so, I still kept buying my seasoncards.

The world of 'entertainment' moves forward - What is happening is outside our control. We can stamp our feet and type long messages on social media etc, but at the end of the day, it's someone else's ball, and they make the rules. We can either keep going to games, or look for something else to entertain us. I wouldn't blame anyone who doesn't go again.

I said years ago that I did not trust overseas owners involved in English football, and later expressed serious doubt over the long-term intention of Sheikh Mansour?ADUG in relation to the club. I felt at the time that we were getting in bed with the wrong people, and was criticised for even daring to question Mansour and Co.

Billionaires are billionaires because they're ruthless bastards - They don't give a shit about the 'little people' paying a couple of thousand or so a year towatch football. For every one who leaves, there are 20 tourists waiting to buy their ticket.

I look back to 2008 and remember celebrating the takeover. At the time, a rag mate (an early member of the FC United movement) said to me; "be careful what you wish for... You just might get it".

This is us 'getting it' now. The owners are heartless bastards who have never actually given a shit about the fans, tradition etc. It was all lip-service, keeping ex-players like Summerbee etc around to provide fans a tentative link to the past... It's a sham.

I'll probably still go to games in a Super League, just like I'd still go to games if we were in the Conference. It's a tough habit to break after 60 years.

One thing I do know for sure though... Manchester City died yesterday when they put Glazer's message on the website... If Mansour and Co, Pep, and all the players f*cked off tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a single tear about it. It's just killed off a bit more of my love for the game.
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Great post.

When we talk about human greed I'd chip in Goethe's Dr. Faust, who made the deal with the devil.

Or "The fisherman and his wife":
https://www.grimmstories.com/en/grimm_fairy-tales/the_fisherman_and_his_wife

Greed and the consequences.
Football fans are in a moral dilemma. City fans have to cope with a global growth business model CFG and Chinese investors.
We've made the deal I mentioned above.

Nowadays younger fans don't know football was superb before business took over. City did win domestic and European titles without billions. We've lost matches and won matches.
It's football, we said.
 
simon23 said:
If we have as is being reported, been backed into a corner on this, could we legitimately put out weaker teams (EDs with some first team) and still just focus on the main stream comps (Prem, FA cup etc etc)?
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i think we will be invited to leave that group of comps, if this all plays out in the way it has.

the fan reaction will spur UEFA on to stick to its guns on this. big showdown coming, and we chose the wrong team to fight in.
 
MCFC1993 said:


Best player to come out against it so far?
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KnaresboroughBlue said:
Sky employee taking the Sky line. Would be interesting to see if his views change if Sky get broadcasting rights.
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I don't think it's either of those (Ex Player or Sky Pundit) ... it's a lower league club owner worried for his club's future, that's what's driving his putting on this façade of being the man of the people.
 
I'm curious, what will motivate the "established" top 6 in domestic competition if they are already guaranteed a european spot in the super league.
 
racecar said:
Think there will be plenty of others who aren’t at one of the 12 clubs. Realistically we need a few from those clubs to come out and speak up against it.
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So far in the Premier League I've seen Van Aanholt, Fofana, McGinn and Richarlison against it/take the piss out of the idea. Need one of the 'ESL *vomits*' players to grow a pair and condemn it.
 
I'm not going to slam the club like most,as i believe we were placed in a predicament that very much saw us damned if we do/damned if we don't.

It was also clearly a incredibly hard decision hence us joining the party 'late'.

I think the club has felt it necessary to get on board for footballing reasons,far more than the money/marketing side.

Thats not to say i like it,or agree with it,as i want to see it scrapped asap.

I'm sure more will be revealed very soon,but as for the way its been handled and rolled out........what a fucking circus.
 
simon23 said:
I thought the idea was to stay in the UEFA comps as well.....basicaly this SL is just another competition (20 team league split into 2 group of 10 with knockout games at the end of it)..I know UEFA are saying they are going to sanction clubs/players that play in this league BUT if they are beaten on this legally and no sanctions can be put in place wouldnt it mean that the Super League is just basically another competition (but only open to the elite 15 members plus 5 others every year?
Sorry if I have got this wrong
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No, its in place of the Champs League, not in addition to. UEFA will ban members of the ESL from UEFA comps.
 
M18CTID said:
I have it on very good authority that MUST had a meeting with United a couple of months back. One of the things they brought up with the club was this idea of a European Super League as there was talk of it in the media back in February. They asked the United rep if it really was a thing and they categorically denied that it was.

Fucking lying bastards
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I'm into Cricket and they have introduced "The Hundred" format which has caused a lot of grief and uproar.
However they had mass fan consultation on the subject and even though it's controversial they are going ahead with it.
Main difference I'm emphasising is they did a lot of research into it and asked the fans of the game.
 
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