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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
Cheesy said:
Well they have broke Premier League rules.
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what ones? not yet, not this year, as I understand it.

No issue with any sanctions btw, just looking at what mechanisms actually exist, and not seeing any.
 
So theoretically ..
I've invested over 1.5 billion pounds in an enterprise. Worked hard to make it profitable and successful.
Then one day the rules change , in all probability I have the choice of doing nothing and hoping the status quo is maintained whilst hoping to improve on the current situation or
Take a profitable option which ensures my investment ( not debt ) is protected.
I don't like the option but I know what I would end up doing .
 
M18CTID said:
Gone too far I think mate. Woodward resigning his position at UEFA and Ceferin's comments about Woodward and Agnelli appears to render the position of the clubs untenable within UEFA.

Now the mischievous side of me hopes that City signing the letter of intent is actually a ploy to get all these clubs who have officials in UEFA positions to step down from them - give 'em enough hope to hang themselves and all that - and that we're actually working in cahoots with UEFA to fuck them all over.
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oh i do hope your right,as for woodward up to him what he does and not our problem he's just a cretin,hope he finds himself down at the job centre soonish
 
SidJames said:
The same Army of Lawyers that all thought we were banged to rights with FFP violations.

We should have gracefully accepted our punishment we were told..

I don't profess to be a Sports lawyer, or legal expert.

But i do know enough legally, to know that a lot of what is Legal ,is down to interpretation,. And ultimately a Judge interpretation

When we were found guilty of FFP violations. It was decided we had knowingly, deceitfully, circumvented FFP legislation.

Our Group of Sports layers argued differently at CAS, and the rest is history.

My point here is the Glaziers/Fenway Sports etc Group of Lawyers might think they have the Premier league/UEFA/FIFA/Sky/BT+ Employment laws T & Cs forensically covered by reading all the T & CS of these various organizations. But this will be all based on their own Lawyers biased interpretations of said T&Cs

All these teams right now still have contractual obligations under all sorts of T&Cs

Could potentially be a legal Mine Field that might take years to sort out..

Sky/BT they have paid hundreds millions for a Premier League product that has today been vastly devalued whilst under a rolling contractual obligation with the Premier League. They are not going to say, you know what it is cool, we will still carry on paying extortionate amounts for for a now inferior product.

First angle of attack might be injunctions.
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No lawyering needed here. Premier league Rule L9 prevents clubs from playing in comps other than those currently in existence. Question is, will the "surviving" PL members exercise it. Massive game of brinksmanship going on here
 
Taking the format of the competition on its own terms, imagine getting drawn with Arsenal and Spurs and having to play them both at least four times every season.
 
SWP's back said:
I have to pretend and act interested in my clients plans for them and their children (apart from this clients I have on here reading this). Most people have to act interested in their jobs.

You make money talking about football, in your own home with no boss and thousands of kids telling you you’re ace. It’s hardly going down the pit fella is it. Chin up.
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No, you're right. I'm just an emotional person though, and im not particularly good at feigning interest! I try and do things that I deeply care about, generally speaking. Itll probably blow over, but right now it feels like a gut punch.
 
WNRH said:
Bringing the competition into disrepute. It does not matter where they six clubs finish now, if they down tool it can have big implications for the rest of the league.
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Interesting. Don't know if that is enough, I doubt the 6 wouldn't have expected that though.
 
If reports are true that City and Chelsea were backed into a corner to sign up surely seeing the outcry this has created it’s not to late to come out now and say we have changed our minds and no longer wish to be part of this. Both clubs would be seen as saviours of the English game and fuck the other 4 clubs who have tried every trick to stop us progressing.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I don't agree. Whilst they are the owners, they are also custodians and have to protect the long-term interests of the club?

You and me will be long gone one day, there are no kids to take our place, as the song states.

The way people consume life is changing quicker than I ever thought possible. Globalisation is happening across all society and will continue to do so.

It was sad that so many people lost their jobs at Debenhams, but the likes of Amazon have come along and have driven them to the wall, doing it quicker and better than the High Street.

I'm 46, so have seen how City have changed during my lifetime, the club as we once knew it died a long time ago.

I like this version better than the one I grew up with, it was shit, barring the banter with my mates and the dreams of City one day winning everything in sight.

As I say, people are entitled to their own viewpoint, but the club will know why the dots have to join up.

There is a massive echo chamber at present, fulled by SKY and Uefa, social media, all with their own agendas.

My agenda will always be City being at the top.
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I hear what you say and mostly agree, I just can't get past the Americanisation bullshit, no promotion or relegation, so, glorified friendlies then.

As someone else on the forum mentioned earlier, what comes next off the yanks list of shit ideas. Trading/drafting of players, 4 quarters instead of 2 halves (tv advertising), pop up adverts during the match money money money.....wtf.
 
The choice is do you want to be part of a competition or a show?

I am so pissed off. I don’t mind ideas to raise more money it’s that a closed shop renders all results meaningless. I get that Americans don’t understand this but the closed shop is for the USA sports (one country) this cannot work for 52 Nations across all Europe who are used to fighting for trophies.

If one club jumps ship and comes back I think others will follow. I hope it’s my club and I hope we still have a say.
 
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Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
Fair enough mate.

But if that’s the case, why weren’t all our fans turning their back on City over the last 5/6 years as they’ve seen the greed growing in the game?

I get fans declaring this as a moment in time - a line in the sand, if you will - but for the most part that’s not what’s actually being said.

Fans are slating the Club for siding with the ESL and making a call on which of the two evils they went with - and in that context I don’t really get what decision they expected the club to take given the limited and equally unpalatable options on the table.
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The unpalatable option is the option we have left the rest of the football pyramid with and that is probably why its a line in the sand for some.

We have sold out the rest of football to satisfy our own greed and to be honest I think were kidding ourselves if we think we were left with no alternative, its a narrative fans on here are using to blindly support the club.
 
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