Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Blue and still suffering]

As someone else has pointed out this isn't a pissing against a wall contest. We should be grateful that vaccination rates are increasing across all countries.

 

[shemnel]

As someone else has pointed out this isn't a pissing against a wall contest. We should be grateful that vaccination rates are increasing across all countries.

couldn't agree more, unfortunately it was reported as one a few months back.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales data:

0 deaths - was 0 last week

54 cases - was 47 last week

0,4% positivity - was 0.4% last week


Vaccinations:- 1,990, 783 first doses given & 891, 569 second doses.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

couldn't agree more, unfortunately it was reported as one a few months back.

Little wonder what with the threats of vaccine blockades and a Irish border closure. It's good to see we're all pulling in the same direction now, though.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Interestingly, since my 2nd vaccination i have acquired Covid Tongue and bad acne just like I did in April/May/June last year while recovering from Covid-19

 

[BlueAnorak]

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Possibly not.
Freight flight are still taking place, as are repatriation flight and specialist person transfers.
People have to enter quarantine hotels if they arrive in the UK.

 

[BlueAnorak]

You're suggesting the UK will leap ahead again? It seems highly unlikely. The EU will cease being constrained by vaccine supply in that time.

Yes the UK rate is going to accelerate by 15% to 30% over the next few weeks. There was a discussion on Sky news about it earlier in the week.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Yes the UK rate is going to accelerate by 15% to 30% over the next few weeks. There was a discussion on Sky news about it earlier in the week.

It'll have to match what we were doing 12 weeks previous.

 

[BlueAnorak]

The EU vaccination programme is around 6 weeks behind the UK, and catching up. At the same time they are exporting half of what they make.

This is hardly a disaster - which is the point I was making. You'll note I've repeatedly said that the UK has done very well.

Utter tosh - the vaccination rate is lower than the UK on average across the EU. Only Germany, the Netherlands and Hungary are ahead and it would take 9 weeks to catch up to our current level of vaccination.
They will only catch us up when we have completed our roll out.
I'm glad they've sorted their shit out but they messed up big style.

 

[SWP's back]

Again, that's actually not what I wrote.

That's twice in 30 minutes you've misrepresented me.

Really, what did you mean then?

second doses do little to prevent general transmission, but first doses make a massive difference.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

the vaccination rate is lower than the UK on average across the EU.

That's simply not true. The data is provided above.

it would take 9 weeks to catch up to our current level of vaccination.

And this is not true either.

I'll step you through the figures. All are 7 day current averages taken from ourworldindata.

UK current vaccine doses per capita 80.72
Germany 45.64

Difference 35.08

Current German vaccination daily rate 0.94%

Time to vaccinate = (35.08/0.94) = 37 days.

Or just over 5 weeks.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Really, what did you mean then?

Go back and read it.

Understand what the figures you've quoted actually mean.

And even if you've interpreted them correctly, consider if 60% is larger or smaller than (94-60)%

Think about where transmission is taking place.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Possibly not.
Freight flight are still taking place, as are repatriation flight and specialist person transfers.
People have to enter quarantine hotels if they arrive in the UK.

The guy who posted the image on social media said these were passenger planes. Maybe he was wrong?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Just read an article on the BBC webpage about the rising cases in Bolton. The journalist didn't mention a possible link with people coming back from India and spreading the Indian variant? Deprivation, bus routes, population density and young people attending colleges were seemingly given as a reason/cause why the rates have gone up? Mustn't be any of those factors elsewhere in the country then which is good news??

Depressingly they did however mention that Bolton's areas of lowest vaccine take up are now associated with the areas of highest cases which is worrying for people getting ill and possible future hospital admissions and people dying. If ever there was strong evidence of why people need to take the vaccine this is it.

I think they need to increase the vaccine distribution in these areas like Burnham said but also lock these parts of Bolton down for a couple of weeks, its currently a local problem and they need to try and do everything to try and keep it a local problem. The council and police need to patrol these areas educate people and enforce the lockdown.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

This thread will be gong for years. Every time we get a sense of freedom something happens.
I didn't think for 1 minute their was ever an agenda behind all this now i'm not so sure.

 

[Manchester33]

God, I can't believe there are people on here measuring cocks about who's vaccine rollout is better.

Remember that the figures of people dying are real humans with families. It's not an us vs them situation. We're all in this together whether you're an EU citizen or UK.

We're lucky that the UK has vaccinated the most vulnerable in our four countries. We should be doing way more to help countries who are lagging behind and try to save as many lives as possible. The fact we're still importing AZ vaccines from India is sheer lunacy to me.

 

[SWP's back]

Go back and read it.

Understand what the figures you've quoted actually mean.

And even if you've interpreted them correctly, consider if 60% is larger or smaller than (94-60)%

Think about where transmission is taking place.

So I was absolutely right. You don’t think 60 to 94% efficacy is a big jump or one worth focusing on. Luckily you’re not in charge of the process. I’d be surprised if you’re in charge of your own bladder.

Reply if you want but I’m sticking you on ignore, there’s nothing to be gained from reading your ramblings and this is luckily the only thread you post on.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Glad to hear that EU Countries have upped their vaccination game. The more lives that are saved the better.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

The fact we're still importing AZ vaccines from India is sheer lunacy to me.

Happily we're not. India put a stop to that (we actually sent someone over there to try and get it restarted, which at the time seemed bad and in hindsight was truly awful).

 

[artfuldodger]

Boris Johnson to hold press conference on Indian variant concerns​

A prime ministerial address to the nation tonight, 5pm.