Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread

Dribble said:
It was a good enough 11 to beat most, but if we're playing a final, we play the 11 best equipped to beat all. We did so against Dortmund & PSG & got the rewards we deserved.

With everyone available yesterday, someone please explain the need to change that more solid approach? :-|
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It's not just about being more solid.
At one stroke Foden and Gundo were not playing where they have been most effective this year. It affected our attacking play as well as leaving us more exposed defensively.
 
Dribble said:
99% of the time, Pep is sublime. But it's the 1% of crucial matches where he veers towards the ridiculous that I don't get!

We play ManUre, & they have a shit system to beat us. Instead of making a minor adjustment to deal with their pace on the break, we stick & get beat. Against other opposition who can't handle us on our 99% days, Pep then changes what works thinking it will throw the opposition, but he only ends up throwing his own team.

Time & time again, it's the same predictable bullshit. I'd rather a City with Pep than without, but I wish someone could give his head a wobble & talk sense into him at crucial times like last night! :-(
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Appointment book

Monday

9am Tony Sporano

10am - 5pm Raheem Sterling

Tuesday thru to Friday

9am - 5pm Pep Guardiola( note to self remove any whiteboards)
 
Chippy_boy said:
I'm 100% convinced we will not win the CL with Pep now. It's not that he never ever can but I just think he's run out of road. I can't see him being here beyond 2023 so he's basically git 2 more goes at it and like you, I think even if we do get to another final next year or the year after, I think he'll tool it in again
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The eleven that started last night have never started a game for us ever.
 
Pep fully believes in his style of football. He won’t change or compromise it. I respect that. It beats most teams week in week out. But to beat the better sides,equipped with better players.Who play fast counter footy. You need something extra which we now seem to be lacking.
Am rambling maybe other factors were in play but not being flexible in style certainly hampers us at times.
 
madloaf said:
It wasn't handball was it. MAHREZ - Can we have a word how he fucking disappeared and when he appeared you wish he'd fucking disappear?
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Agreed. The number of times he'd move inside so there would be no out wide ball and it's back to the back 4.

I understand that Chilwell thought he had a lob on in the changing room after the match.... when he dropped his shorts, Mahrez crawled out of his pocket.
 
bluealf said:
He left VK out of his team for ages due to not trusting him to stay fit, he was on the bench loads until he got back in and then that led to the goal of goals.

I never said VK's injuries were Pep's fault, though he may have contributed to Aguero's by making him into a pressing forward, something he really wasn't before but that is just conjecture on my part.
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When Vinnie kept breaking down on almost every return yes. Anytime he proved his fitness he basically played. The respect between Vinnie and Pep is huge,
 
Chippy_boy said:
I'm 100% convinced we will not win the CL with Pep now. It's not that he never ever can but I just think he's run out of road. I can't see him being here beyond 2023 so he's basically git 2 more goes at it and like you, I think even if we do get to another final next year or the year after, I think he'll tool it in again
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Agree he will be gone but he’s had no strikers all season. The only real option last night was fern should of started instead of Gundy.

if pep had 2 top strikers in this team we will win it. We had nothing on our bench last night that could really change the game & that inc Aguero sadly

2/3 new players & we will win this next season
 
I didn't sleep a wink and this morning I'm still amazed that after supporting City for 65 years that I can remember I can still be so badly affected by one defeat. Pep's come in for criticism as is the case after every CL defeat and I too was surprised and concerned by the omission of Ferna from the starting line up and Raz's place in it. But I'm certainly not going to argue with or criticise a football genius and I was convinced that Raz must have really impressed in training - and maybe he did. In the end the selection wasn't the problem, and if he didn't have a grat game Raz was no worse than anyone else. All week I had been telling myself that we had all the best players, the better team and the better manager, that if we played our best we'd win, and I'm just as convinced of all that this morning: but there was just a niggling voice telling me that teams rarely play their best in CL finals and the nighmare would be if City were way below their best - and so it proved. Whether it was nerves , whether the occasion got to our lads I don't know but from the off they were leaden footed and hesitant. At times they looked like 11 complete strangers needed three touches to decide what to do with the ball. I'm not criticising any of them because I was a bag of nerves a week before kick off and I got worse but none of them was recognisable as the player we see week in week out and I sympathise massively with them because they really feel the pain of defeat far more than I do. But Kev rarely got into the game until he was flattened by a brutal body check (did Mo Salah see that?) and even Phil - heroic young Phil Foden - never influenced the game anywhere near as much as we know he can on an off day. Some games teams just never get going, a real collective off day. Just our bloody luck that our first CL final was such a day. But City will be back and one day of a screwed up system will all be worth it when we see our lads holding that damned trophy up high.
 
City_Sean said:
For me the biggest frustration is that we just didn't play our best XI/system. Obviously last night he tried to change it but it didn't didn't. Losing a final can happen, but to do so when we didn't even play the way we can makes it so disappointing. Mendy didn't even have a save to make.
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That's the annoying thing you can accept losing but not when your strongest 11 you have played most of the season isn't on the pitch.
 
Blu1 said:
Agree he will be gone but he’s had no strikers all season. The only real option last night was fern should of started instead of Gundy.

if pep had 2 top strikers in this team we will win it. We had nothing on our bench last night that could really change the game & that inc Aguero sadly

2/3 new players & we will win this next season
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We lost because we didn't defend not because we didn't have strikers. Pep wanted to control the game and yet we had less control than I've seen us have since before Christmas. I'd have been less critical if he'd played Fern AND Rodri than playing neither of them.
 
SidJames said:
And that is the truth.

He has been schooled by a manager who only arrived at Chelsea half way through a season.

He turned a team who conceded 5 goals to us in to winners.

Knocking us out of the FA Cup, and turning Chelsea in to European Champions.

Sorry that should not be happening.

Embarrassing really.

We will never get a better chance.
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jog on dipper
 
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