Jesus, we’ve been living through this for months and months now and you still don’t know that it can take up to ten days for a positive test/asymptomatic/symptoms/illness to display itself from the point of contraction?
The example was of 2 people who have both had 2 jabs. So clearly the rules aren’t going to change on the date you’re referring to so how can it end? We know people who have had 2 jabs will still carry it but just have less chance of dying from it than winning the lottery if fit and healthy.
Until the rules change they should be followed. It’s quite simple. I don’t pay attention to what the politicians say, and certainly not what the media says, I just follow the rules that are in place on the gov website. Until they change on the advice of the scientists, they should be followed.
Whenever the scientists say that enough of the population have been vaccinated and the virus is suppressed enough for them to give the go ahead for the govt to say it ceases.
Dictatorships dream
This is what you seem to be missing. The scientists will NEVER say ‘ok we’re good to go now’ (a medical end to a pandemic) because there will ALWAYS be variants coming along that ‘may’ be more transmissble and ‘could’ evade vaccines. The scientists have already shown they simply will not ever be capable of saying it’s the end until all risks have been eliminated now and going forward, which of course will never happen. Of course from an epidemiological POV that’s understandable because they don’t have to worry about the impact such advice has on the economy or welfare of citizens as that’s not their brief. That is down to politicians but unfortunately, although I appreciate they have a difficult job, they have demonstrated absolute incompetence, weakness, lack of leadership and slopey shoulders. If they wait for scientists to tell them everything is ok and things can get back to normal then that WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
Which leaves us with a social ending of the pandemic when everyone just gets fed up with it and decides enough is enough. Those that are scared of this killer virus that most survive and most are vaccinated against will overtake those that are happy to live with restrictions ad nauseum. Humanity has only ever eradicated smallpox and so the zero covid advocates are the loons around here not those that have long since realised we need to get on with our lives before living morphs into existing.
At what point does destroying the entire travel / hospitality / tourism industries (delete as appropriate) and the associated livelihoods of those in those sectors, along with the untold damage being done to generations of young people outweigh the theoretical risks of variants that will NEVER EVER stop coming along?
There is no exit strategy it is clear as day and those that are cheerleaders for the government’s incompetence are complicit in the damage they are causing. Why have they not pumped billions into increasing NHS capacity for winter?
A little piece on medical v social endings. Not saying it is definitive but it is worth musing for those sat at home cowering away waiting for Neil Ferguson etc to tell you everything is ok…..
How Pandemics End (Published 2020)
An infectious outbreak can conclude in more ways than one, historians say. But for whom does it end, and who gets to decide?www.nytimes.com
Brilliant postThis is what you seem to be missing. The scientists will NEVER say ‘ok we’re good to go now’ (a medical end to a pandemic) because there will ALWAYS be variants coming along that ‘may’ be more transmissble and ‘could’ evade vaccines. The scientists have already shown they simply will not ever be capable of saying it’s the end until all risks have been eliminated now and going forward, which of course will never happen. Of course from an epidemiological POV that’s understandable because they don’t have to worry about the impact such advice has on the economy or welfare of citizens as that’s not their brief. That is down to politicians but unfortunately, although I appreciate they have a difficult job, they have demonstrated absolute incompetence, weakness, lack of leadership and slopey shoulders. If they wait for scientists to tell them everything is ok and things can get back to normal then that WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
Which leaves us with a social ending of the pandemic when everyone just gets fed up with it and decides enough is enough. Those that are scared of this killer virus that most survive and most are vaccinated against will overtake those that are happy to live with restrictions ad nauseum. Humanity has only ever eradicated smallpox and so the zero covid advocates are the loons around here not those that have long since realised we need to get on with our lives before living morphs into existing.
At what point does destroying the entire travel / hospitality / tourism industries (delete as appropriate) and the associated livelihoods of those in those sectors, along with the untold damage being done to generations of young people outweigh the theoretical risks of variants that will NEVER EVER stop coming along?
There is no exit strategy it is clear as day and those that are cheerleaders for the government’s incompetence are complicit in the damage they are causing. Why have they not pumped billions into increasing NHS capacity for winter?
A little piece on medical v social endings. Not saying it is definitive but it is worth musing for those sat at home cowering away waiting for Neil Ferguson etc to tell you everything is ok…..
How Pandemics End (Published 2020)
An infectious outbreak can conclude in more ways than one, historians say. But for whom does it end, and who gets to decide?