It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[Centurions]

What are you basing your fear on?

It's usually based on getting as many people to bite as possible.

 

[Semper aggressus]

I wouldn't be TOO surprised if Pep wants to "trim" the squad a bit and we lose a few players and bring in less.

Bringing in the academy coach into the first team, and all the reports of various youth players around the squad, has me thinking the plan is to use academy players for "extra" players.

Aguero, Laporte, Jesus, Bernardo may ALL be sold, with only Grealish and/or a striker brought in, wouldn't be surprised by that.

I know many might not like it, but I've been a big fan of using the academy more, and if it means Delap, Palmer, McAtee, Mbete and so on get chances with the first team, then that's better for the club in the long run anyways.

How much of a long run do you want to wait to see if those are anywhere near good while rags and Chelsea win trophies because they actually signed players for this season?

Our squad is already too weak as the drop off in quality when the regulars were rested showed in games last season. We need to be strengthening not weakening.

The whole club should be hurting and angry about the CL Final shitshow and doing everything we can to make sure we win it next year as well as the title again.

 

[Keeper!]

I'd be more concerned about Kane.

Graelish, even if he doesn't hit the level expected, plays in a position we are stacked in, a few promising academy ones too.

Kane is coming in to be relied for that position, no room for getting that one wrong. Not at that price, not at his age.

He would be unsellable the minute he signs the contract, on Huge wages for a number of years. People kid themselves that haaland would be on big wages but kane would play for fuck all, they'd both be on big wages, probably over 300k. Even 15-20 league goals a season, imo, is not good enough for what he would be bought for. If he is not delivering season defining numbers and changing games out of nothing, bit of a misplaced investment. Particularly with the risk he won't do it over the length of his contract, he could decline in the last couple seasons.

I totally agree, watching Kane this last month has changed my mind on him completely.

He looks old, slow and not a city player.

Kane and Grealish as transfers both worry me, especially with the money involved, never doubted the club since the takeover , but if we sign these two for the first time since the summer of Sinclair & Rodwell, I would be a little concerned.

Haaland would be the one for me, but can understand the difficulties of the deal, Grealish I think is hugely overrated.

 

[Keeper!]

Literally impossible for him to flop mate? Obviously quite a few (including me) are building him up alot but with justification imo. Kane maybe more of a risk in fairness?

I understand your view, but any transfer can flop, whoever they are, if we sign Messi no guarantee it would work.

I just don't get Grealish, never have, but hopefully he proves me very wrong.

If we lose Bernardo, to me it's a serious downgrade.

 

[Keeper!]

What are you basing your fear on?

Completely overrated, he looks good in a very average team,

Have doubts about his character but to be fair with that, a lot of people who have worked with him, rave about his attitude.

Time will tell.

 

[mosssideblue]

I totally agree, watching Kane this last month has changed my mind on him completely.

He looks old, slow and not a city player.

Kane and Grealish as transfers both worry me, especially with the money involved, never doubted the club since the takeover , but if we sign these two for the first time since the summer of Sinclair & Rodwell, I would be a little concerned.

Haaland would be the one for me, but can understand the difficulties of the deal, Grealish I think is hugely overrated.

Click.

 

[mosssideblue]

Completely overrated, he looks good in a very average team,

Have doubts about his character but to be fair with that, a lot of people who have worked with him, rave about his attitude.

Time will tell.

Overrated by who exactly?

 

[Keeper!]

Overrated by who exactly?

The English media and general fan.

The stats even, the most fouled player, what the hell does it mean?

Great players don't spend half a game on their arses , the best players avoid challenges, through skill and agility.

 

[Rammy Blue]

The English media and general fan.

The stats even, the most fouled player, what the hell does it mean?

Great players don't spend half a game on their arses , the best players avoid challenges, through skill and agility.

Take it you’ve never played the game?

 

[Semper aggressus]

The English media and general fan.

The stats even, the most fouled player, what the hell does it mean?

Great players don't spend half a game on their arses , the best players avoid challenges, through skill and agility.

Great players win you games. If Grealish gets a free kick for Kev to smash in, or a penalty that (hopefully!) Kane puts away to win a game then that’s much better than someone dribbling past three men before losing it to the next or scuffing a weak shot straight to the keeper.

 

[Keeper!]

Take it you’ve never played the game?

What's playing the game got to do with anything?

You sound like a ex player TV pundit trying to justify there pressence.

I have watched football for 50 plus years, and have an opinion.

Grealish reminds me of another player back in the day who we payed a record fee for and at the time was the darling of football.

Remember Mick Channon? We payed a record fee, England International, and such an exciting signing, he was a nightmare, utter crap, and guess what like Grealish, spent half a game on his arse eating turf and moaning to the ref.

 

[Keeper!]

Great players win you games. If Grealish gets a free kick for Kev to smash in, or a penalty that (hopefully!) Kane puts away to win a game then that’s much better than someone dribbling past three men before losing it to the next or scuffing a weak shot straight to the keeper.

Agreed, but Grealish present days antics will be quickly sussed out in a high profile team like us, we are under very different scrutiny than Villa.

 

[andyhinch]

Literally impossible for him to flop mate? Obviously quite a few (including me) are building him up alot but with justification imo. Kane maybe more of a risk in fairness?

Impossible? Big shout, reasons he could, limited experience at our level, been a one club player, pressure of a big money transfer etc. I personally don’t think he will fail but I wouldn’t say it’s impossible.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Completely overrated, he looks good in a very average team,

Have doubts about his character but to be fair with that, a lot of people who have worked with him, rave about his attitude.

Time will tell.

Thing is I totally agree with you on Bernardo and would miss his energy and commitment during games but it does seem he wants to move, no smoke without fire.

As for Grealish I don’t think he offers the same as Bernie but he offers Different attributes and he changes games

He holds the ball up well, got a good range of pass, close control when dribbling and likes to attack

Yes he looks like a fanny with his hair band and roll down socks but he would be a decent signing if he signs

 

[mosssideblue]

The English media and general fan.

The stats even, the most fouled player, what the hell does it mean?

Great players don't spend half a game on their arses , the best players avoid challenges, through skill and agility.

So no one of significance.

 

[Keeper!]

Thing is I totally agree with you on Bernardo and would miss his energy and commitment during games but it does seem he wants to move, no smoke without fire.

As for Grealish I don’t think he offers the same as Bernie but he offers Different attributes and he changes games

He holds the ball up well, got a good range of pass, close control when dribbling and likes to attack

Yes he looks like a fanny with his hair band and roll down socks but he would be a decent signing if he signs

Totally agree with you, you can't keep Bernardo if unhappy but it's a big loss.

Grealish just worries me but if he signs he will have my total backing and I hope he proves me very wrong.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Totally agree with you, you can't keep Bernardo if unhappy but it's a big loss.

Grealish just worries me but if he signs he will have my total backing and I hope he proves me very wrong.

Understand your concerns

But I think he will thrive here

 

[Keeper!]

So no one of significance.

The game is about opinions, always has been and always will be hopefully.

It will be a sad day when someone can't have a differing opinion.

 

[Fordyboy46]

We haven't even signed Grealish yet unless I've missed the announcement. Argue about how good or bad he will be if he signs, but until then it seems rather pointless

 

[mosssideblue]

The game is about opinions, always has been and always will be hopefully.

It will be a sad day when someone can't have a differing opinion.

I can accept opinions of others, but when you start to state the opinions of others in an attempt to back you up, it seems like your opinion is quite hollow.

I would suggest there are many more and better qualified people who have the opposite opinion of yours, but I have no need to use them to challenge you.