England v Denmark | Euro 2020 Semi Final

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StockportJB76 said:
I have to say that I really am bemused by the lack of support for Foden in regard to an England place tonight from City supporters and how he now seems ignored by the general media. If Foden was a Liverpool player you can be sure their supporters would be up in arms about the fact that he does not even seem to be considered as close to selection by the media. For example a sky website article although mentioning Foden today, includes pictures of the other 4 candidates for a place and not Foden.

I have got to say that although things have worked out for Southgate he is taking a big risk by potentially playing Saka today. If you look at where the goals could come from Phillips, Rice and Saka have a poor record. Therefore relying on set piece or Kane, Sterling, Mount. We know Sterling can be hot or cold in this regard although done well in this tournament. Contrast this with a City side where goals can come from many player's!

I hear talk about England DNA and playing to your strengths but this cautious approach has been undertaken by most England Managers over the years and has often lead to dull low scoring affairs in crucial matches. Southgate has consistently mentioned the need for pace getting behind the opposition and prefers a gritty midfield. Technical ability appears to be much less appreciated. Guardiola on the other hand comes from the opposite direction, Garcia got a chance at City even without pace or height as a centre back because of his technical qualities and midfielders have often been converted to full backs to provide greater control of possession.

Foden is small and light weight in a philosophy that values physical assets over skill . It seems to have been forgotten that he is quick. I believe that he is the best technical player that we have, even above Grealish in my opinion. As probably our best long term prospect, he is being given zero experience for the future, in terms of these end of tournament games. The media have virtually assumed that Grealish comes on ahead of Foden but he has no Champions League experience and was injured at the back end of season. It is not that I am against Grealish, it is just that Foden does not appear to be under consideration from any quarters.

I hope I am wrong and that England are successful tonight! My greatest fear is that we get a player sent off before we can bring on players like Foden, Grealish and Sancho, if they are not selected.
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It's the English disease rearing it's head again.
 
ancoats said:
i think its personal between southgate the foden ? ok maybe the youngest of the 3 midfield for that role but foden form was outstand last season and was nailed on a starting player in this euro's

maybe the trouble with greenwood and foden did upset the FA and southgate. but still if you have the best young talent in world football right now why is he on the bench
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Southgate played him in the first two matches, so he clearly came into the tournament as first choice. He didn't have great games, and arguably isn't as suited to playing as part of a detached front three as Rashford, Sancho and Saka. Phil has played nearly all his games surrounded by passing options, so it's not a surprise that's not quite his game.

I suspect that Foden would have come on in the last game, if it wasn't for the yellow card.
 
bluenova said:
Southgate played him in the first two matches, so he clearly came into the tournament as first choice. He didn't have great games, and arguably isn't as suited to playing as part of a detached front three as Rashford, Sancho and Saka. Phil has played nearly all his games surrounded by passing options, so it's not a surprise that's not quite his game.

I suspect that Foden would have come on in the last game, if it wasn't for the yellow card.
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When you say he didn’t have a great game are you insinuating he wasn’t good?
Because his replacements haven’t done anymore or any less in the games they’ve played yet we are to believe they deserve to keep their places but Phil shouldn’t?
Nah, not having it. He did nothing wrong and had he been given the dead rubber in the last qualifying game what’s to say he wouldn’t have smashed it?
Saka and Sancho have done nothing that warrants them being held in a higher regard to Foden.
 
bluenova said:
Southgate played him in the first two matches, so he clearly came into the tournament as first choice. He didn't have great games, and arguably isn't as suited to playing as part of a detached front three as Rashford, Sancho and Saka. Phil has played nearly all his games surrounded by passing options, so it's not a surprise that's not quite his game.

I suspect that Foden would have come on in the last game, if it wasn't for the yellow card.
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Played out of position and under restrictive orders. Was very unlikely to set the Euro's on fire playing under those conditions.
 
bluenova said:
Southgate played him in the first two matches, so he clearly came into the tournament as first choice. He didn't have great games, and arguably isn't as suited to playing as part of a detached front three as Rashford, Sancho and Saka. Phil has played nearly all his games surrounded by passing options, so it's not a surprise that's not quite his game.

I suspect that Foden would have come on in the last game, if it wasn't for the yellow card.
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so your saying foden too good for england and southgate tac-tics ??
this is my point 3 or 4 of englands best young talent are being wasted because of southgate using route one

we been crying out for players like foden grealish mount bellingham and the fuck clueless manager plays route one
 
Pablo1 said:
When you say he didn’t have a great game are you insinuating he wasn’t good?
Because his replacements haven’t done anymore or any less in the games they’ve played yet we are to believe they deserve to keep their places but Phil shouldn’t?
Nah, not having it. He did nothing wrong and had he been given the dead rubber in the last qualifying game what’s to say he wouldn’t have smashed it?
Saka and Sancho have done nothing that warrants them being held in a higher regard to Foden.
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I'm saying he was ok - and I'd agree that Sako and Sancho haven't really set the world alight either. However, they do appear to fit in the system a little better.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
You don’t think Saka and Sancho can play football? Ok mate.
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saka did not rip up trees at arsenal last season did he. sancho had a ok season
if foden was playing for united he would be undroppable and not treated like he has under southgate

maybe foden should have gone on loan to scotland hahahaha
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Rashford is no a player in form, either for club or country. There is only one reason he's even at the Euro's and that's the club he plays for.
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But he's hardly played. City have had three or four players in every game, more than twice what United have had. Did Southgate just take Rashford so his face appears on the photos to appease the legions of United fans out there?
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Played out of position and under restrictive orders. Was very unlikely to set the Euro's on fire playing under those conditions.
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Agree completely.

But then for years we complained that players were in the England team, out of position, and not able to play their "natural game". Phil will get chances, and it's up to him to show he can adapt, but I don't expect Southgate to be changing a team that's doing well to accommode him.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
But he's hardly played. City have had three or four players in every game, more than twice what United have had. Did Southgate just take Rashford so his face appears on the photos to appease the legions of United fans out there?
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Scudamore of the PL said they needed 'a strong Manchester U*****d' to improve their brand, and I'm guessing the FA is not much different.
 
ancoats said:
saka did not rip up trees at arsenal last season did he. sancho had a ok season
if foden was playing for united he would be undroppable and not treated like he has under southgate

maybe foden should have gone on loan to scotland hahahaha
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Now, stats don't tell us everything, and they tend to be skewed towards attackers, but whoscored have him as one of the top five players in the Bundesliga last season. When you look at the other players in the list, he's in pretty good company.

 
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