England v Denmark | Euro 2020 Semi Final

What will the result be?

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The subs at the end made a lot of sense, Denmark were knackered and they weren't going to be running after the ball so all we had to do was play keeps. With an extra defender on we could push Henderson further into midfield to help keep it.

I'm not sure about the penalty, there was contact but it looked like he was going down before the contact... Who knows, I'll take it!
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
your talking as if England are playing like Burnley… we’ve played some good stuff this tournament.

if city beat Chelsea in the champions league final would you be as negative?

we haven’t won anything since 66, we don’t have to play like prime Barcelona we just need to win. Couldn’t care less if we play like we did.

do you want us to play like city? Even though we don’t have the players and we are through to the final. Can tell you only like club football
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Playing like Burnley is pretty much what it's felt like to me. It's generally been lumped forward from the keeper. Even Kyle Walker was launching throw in's into the box on 30mins... The only interesting element was the tension half way through the second half last night that has made watching England in any way interesting so far in this tournament.

Not quite sure how the City beating Chelsea in the UCL relates to my negativity to the England playing style as city on the whole play attacking football regardless of the scenario and yes, this may have been to our detriment... I've got no issues losing playing expressively than winning by being defensive and somewhat fortunate (Which is what England are...). I know what values i'd align with and whats more interesting to watch.

I'd love England to play in a more expressive manner, we certainly have the playing talent to do so but Southgate clearly is too pragmatic to even consider it.

Let's see how it pans out in the final.
 
Rascal said:
Kane has been poor, he is hardly involved, his Penalty was fortunate and really apart from that he made little impact.
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Kane was one of our better players last night (in an all round very good display by the team).

He was much more mobile, dropping deeper, going out wide, all of which made space for Sterling and Saka. That alone makes your suggestion that he should be dropped absolute nonsense. But to say he made very little impact is beyond blinkered. Go and watch the equaliser again. Kane's pass takes about 5 Danes out of the game in the space of 15 yards. It was weighted to perfection. Similar (but better) than Sterlings pass to Kane against Ukraine. Absolutely Magic stuff from the skipper to go with an all round strong performance.

Kane started the Tournament quietly and looked immobile and ineffective in the first two matches. Since then he has had more influence and played better in every game up to and including last night. To suggest dropping him now and going with a false nine - when at his best Kane combines all the qualities of a false 9 with a world class true 9 - well let's just say I am happy that Southgate is in charge and not you.
 
inbetween said:
The subs at the end made a lot of sense, Denmark were knackered and they weren't going to be running after the ball so all we had to do was play keeps. With an extra defender on we could push Henderson further into midfield to help keep it.

I'm not sure about the penalty, there was contact but it looked like he was going down before the contact... Who knows, I'll take it!
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But we didn't play keeps for a large part of 2nd half of et. We kept lumping it back to them. The subbing on of Trippier handed the initiative back to the Danes. It worked out ok but should it be similar against Italy, I would hope Southgate wouldn't do the same.
 
Southbanken said:
Kane was one of our better players last night (in an all round very good display by the team).

He was much more mobile, dropping deeper, going out wide, all of which made space for Sterling and Saka. That alone makes your suggestion that he should be dropped absolute nonsense. But to say he made very little impact is beyond blinkered. Go and watch the equaliser again. Kane's pass takes about 5 Danes out of the game in the space of 15 yards. It was weighted to perfection. Similar (but better) than Sterlings pass to Kane against Ukraine. Absolutely Magic stuff from the skipper to go with an all round strong performance.

Kane started the Tournament quietly and looked immobile and ineffective in the first two matches. Since then he has had more influence and played better in every game up to and including last night. To suggest dropping him now and going with a false nine - when at his best Kane combines all the qualities of a false 9 with a world class true 9 - well let's just say I am happy that Southgate is in charge and not you.
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Southbanken. I thought Kane had his best game of the tourno last night and was clearly under orders to drop and collect as deep as he did. For me at times he was too deep, collecting a short pass when one of the midfielders could have done the job. Perhaps it says something about the limitations of the midfield that he did this? Whatever, it worked and it was a gritty, disciplined performance against an excellently organised but limited opposition. The final should be interesting but probably be a bore for those wanting end- to-end excitement. Unless there are injuries I would expect the same England line-up and system with only the right wing starter a question.

Reading opinions on this thread I do wonder whether some posters would have a different perspective and be happier if City were the pre 2008 model and England, however limited were the distraction taking the gloss and attention from the Scum or Chavs.
 
Rascal said:
England just about deserved it, Sterling was the difference.

Denmark were excellent defensively and lively on the counter, but England dealt with that well and Walker had as good a game as I have seen him, totally justified his selection. Stones and Maguire look solid, Shaw who I think was fortunate to start the tournament in front of Chilwell has been superb. Kane has been poor, he is hardly involved, his Penalty was fortunate and really apart from that he made little impact. I wouldn't start him against Italy, I would play a false nine, one of Mount, Foden or Grealish with the wide men Sterling and Sako/Sancho pushed high and wide. Bonnuci and Chelini will eat Kane for breakfast, give them something different to think about.

Southgate frustrates me, he changes personal, not tactics and in normal time it was crying out for a change in tactics as we struggled to get behind them. Fair play to him though, it worked out in the end and you have to give him enormous credit for that. He made a tough call in bringing Grealish off to solidify the team and that took bravery.
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Our only downside last night was our keeper, his kicking and throwing output let him down.

back 4 were great.

Kane although his penalty was poor, his overall play was great.
 
BeerIsTheBest said:
Southbanken. I thought Kane had his best game of the tourno last night and was clearly under orders to drop and collect as deep as he did. For me at times he was too deep, collecting a short pass when one of the midfielders could have done the job. Perhaps it says something about the limitations of the midfield that he did this? Whatever, it worked and it was a gritty, disciplined performance against an excellently organised but limited opposition. The final should be interesting but probably be a bore for those wanting end- to-end excitement. Unless there are injuries I would expect the same England line-up and system with only the right wing starter a question.

Reading opinions on this thread I do wonder whether some posters would have a different perspective and be happier if City were the pre 2008 model and England, however limited were the distraction taking the gloss and attention from the Scum or Chavs.
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thought the same, proper cringy some of the anti england posts
 
mancityscot said:
Sterling is a disgraceful cheat, pure and simple.
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Oh you know that with all the certainty in your empty head do you? I wish he could take knobs like you to court and sue you for slander. Every single one of you. Have you ever played football? If you did you'd know that if you're running and twisting at speed and you get clipped it knocks you off balance and you go down. Oh and that's us as average run of the mill pub players, not a super fast highly skilled athlete that is quicker and more finely balanced than we could ever dream to be.

Here's the run for all you whingers . The ref was right there in close up real time. He saw it at grass roots level, he'd hear the contact, see how it affected his balance and gave the penalty. Now somebody watching a TV screen then viewed it again in slow motion from different angles and surprise surprise, he gave the penalty too. End of fucking story. Rightly or wrongly two separate officials said it was a penalty. Sterling didn't award the penalty they did.

What are you and the rest of the moaners upset about really,? That he's a successful rich young black man? That England won? Or are you a closet dipper still upset that he has the audacity to leave your cult of a club? Whatever it is I wish you'd all take your hatred of one of our own players and fuck off elsewhere I really do.
 
I thought Walker was immense last night as was Sterling.
Kane had his best game so far and I agree with the previous poster who said that him dropping too deep was due to the limitations in central midfield.
Saka was almost a non entity and how he got picked before Sir Phillip or Grealish is confusing at best.
Rice and Mount were decent but Phillips is another question Mark. Yes he runs around and covers a lot but he seems to take an age to pick a pass.
Stones was solid and made defending look easy. Maguire was decent and I hate to say this but Dough boy would excel at left back for us.
Finally the man in goals who decapitated VVD. Very poor position for their goal and not an assured display at all.
In summary - Phillips and Saka out for me.
 
Bobby the blue said:
Above post is spot on. It’s exactly how I’m feeling at the moment.
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It's a step too far for me and I've had enough. If I said what I really felt I'd be banned. It's just a weird sort of hatred for no specific reason and supposedly from people who support our club yet want to demonise a player that plays for our club. It's an utter nonsense

People can say it was a harsh penalty, it was soft, we'd feel aggrieved if it was given against us, that I get. Although with the many bad decisions that have gone against us frankly I'm not losing any sleep over one that has gone our way. To vilify the player to the degree some have on here though is bang out of order
 
Happy to admit i was wrong i said we had Raheems best years and he was done the rest he has had has reivigorated him.
Kane ive never wanted however his last 2 performances dropping deep and linking the play.He would be a different dimension to our play and allow even more space to be filled by runners from our midfield.I think he would be awesome for us and now in the camp of buying the best striker.
 
Tuearts right boot said:
You want us to win the final but the manager to go.....That's like shooting your cash cow.
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Is it?
I don't rate Southgate very highly as a manager,he clearly has some strengths,which are negated by his weaknesses, imo.

We all know he keeps his job whatever happens.
I'm guessing nearly everyone will be perfectly happy to carry on with his style of play and tactical nous come what may.
Win or lose Sunday.
 
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