It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

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People keep forgetting the state of Spurs especially after COVID, Levy practically did a we're fucked interview post season to put it out there.

Same for Villa, can be as rich as they want, but getting 80m for a single player would allow them to keep growing their project and reinvest, in COVID circumstances most clubs would be appealed by our interest
Most clubs have been hammered by covid financially , some like Spurs to the point of desperation.

It will be interesting to see if Bernardo gets the move he allegedly wants, I am sure in normal times there would be a que of clubs wanting him, but this summer who has the cash to buy him?
 
Most clubs have been hammered by covid financially , some like Spurs to the point of desperation.

It will be interesting to see if Bernardo gets the move he allegedly wants, I am sure in normal times there would be a que of clubs wanting him, but this summer who has the cash to buy him?
In Bernardo's case it wouldn't surprise me if Mendes cooks up some shady deal to get it done, he's been doing it for years after all. With Jesus it could be tricky, can't see Juve giving us a straightforward deal, Serie A is in dire straits
 
£100 m is not coming exclusively from those who haven't played for us. It will come from those who have. I don't know whether that figure has Sane sale amount or not.
Sancho Nmecha Harrison Porro? And probably a big name exit will happen to cover that 100m

You've missed £18m for Angelino.

Fag packet adding...we're already at close to £100m in sales and loans before potential Herrera sale. Throw in one high-profile sale and looking easily at raising £150m plus.

Sane - £44m
Angelino - £18m
Harrison - £11m
Sancho - £11m
Nmecha - £11m
Ilic - £1m loan
Herrera - £20m (West Ham possibility)
Porro - £1m loan

There is also a 25 per cent sell on for Tosin (linked with Arsenal)
Additional loan fees for Roberts, other kids, etc.
 
In Bernardo's case it wouldn't surprise me if Mendes cooks up some shady deal to get it done, he's been doing it for years after all. With Jesus it could be tricky, can't see Juve giving us a straightforward deal, Serie A is in dire straits
Bernardo's only chance seems to be Atletico, love to see a deal with Felix, but only a swop no cash.

Still rumours that Ronaldo is off, so it may give Juve options.
 
You've missed £18m for Angelino.

Fag packet adding...we're already at close to £100m in sales and loans before potential Herrera sale. Throw in one high-profile sale and looking easily at raising £150m plus.

Sane - £44m
Angelino - £18m
Harrison - £11m
Sancho - £11m
Nmecha - £11m
Ilic - £1m loan
Herrera - £20m (West Ham possibility)
Porro - £1m loan

There is also a 25 per cent sell on for Tosin (linked with Arsenal)
Additional loan fees for Roberts, other kids, etc.
Loan fees for Roberts?, Tikix is a genius.

Not doubting your figures, but we took a 120m hit last season, won't the Sane money be used to show profit this last season?

We have also spent money on the South American kids, not massive amounts but not insignificant either.
 
In Bernardo's case it wouldn't surprise me if Mendes cooks up some shady deal to get it done, he's been doing it for years after all. With Jesus it could be tricky, can't see Juve giving us a straightforward deal, Serie A is in dire straits

If he is going, I'd be happy to loan Jesus to Juventus, I think he'd be brilliant there and be worth 2x as much on the market after a good loan as he is now. Plus there'll be more people interested.
 
You've missed £18m for Angelino.

Fag packet adding...we're already at close to £100m in sales and loans before potential Herrera sale. Throw in one high-profile sale and looking easily at raising £150m plus.

Sane - £44m
Angelino - £18m
Harrison - £11m
Sancho - £11m
Nmecha - £11m
Ilic - £1m loan
Herrera - £20m (West Ham possibility)
Porro - £1m loan

There is also a 25 per cent sell on for Tosin (linked with Arsenal)
Additional loan fees for Roberts, other kids, etc.
Don't forget that Txiki bought a Euromillions ticket last night... We could be quids in by tomorrow!
 
If he is going, I'd be happy to loan Jesus to Juventus, I think he'd be brilliant there and be worth 2x as much on the market after a good loan as he is now. Plus there'll be more people interested.
Loan + obligation doesn't sound too bad yeah, considering we're probably not that desperate for cash.

I have no doubts Jesus will thrive in Serie A
 
Loan fees for Roberts?, Tikix is a genius.

Not doubting your figures, but we took a 120m hit last season, won't the Sane money be used to show profit this last season?

We have also spent money on the South American kids, not massive amounts but not insignificant either.
Think we need to remember the accounting year-end is 30 June so any signings/sales now are in the 30 June 2022 (next season's) accounts, which will have fans back etc. so we're not having to worry about offsetting the 30 June 2020 loss anymore, that will have been accounted for in the accounting year just gone with a CL final run, league title win etc.
 
Think we need to remember the accounting year-end is 30 June so any signings/sales now are in the 30 June 2022 (next season's) accounts, which will have fans back etc. so we're not having to worry about offsetting the 30 June 2020 loss anymore, that will have been accounted for in the accounting year just gone with a CL final run, league title win etc.
The point is we lost 120m, we need to turn that around to avoid issues after covid with FFP.

The loss was due to the accounting period change/tv deal and champions league pay out delay, but even with those we would not have made a big profit.

We still have to be careful , no guarantee stadiums will be full or the pandemic is over.
 
Loan fees for Roberts?, Tikix is a genius.

Not doubting your figures, but we took a 120m hit last season, won't the Sane money be used to show profit this last season?

We deliberately loaded some costs into last year, knowing this would be the summer to replace Sergio, which is why they held over the Sane money and we submitted accounts over 13 months - an additional £25m in salaries also.

There was also a loss due to the agreed TV money being reduced, but that will also add back extra millions during this next accounting year - as will hopefully crowds returning and the booking of season ticket monies.

Coupled this year with £72.5m in Champions League TV/prize money and £150m for winning the Premier League again - the club know we will make a profit even with a hefty transfer spend.

There is an additional £3m bonus to come for Sane winning the Bundesliga (up to a total fee of £52m in the years to come)

Leeds staying up this season also triggered a bonus to City re Harrison.
 
Loan fees for Roberts?, Tikix is a genius.

Not doubting your figures, but we took a 120m hit last season, won't the Sane money be used to show profit this last season?

We have also spent money on the South American kids, not massive amounts but not insignificant either.

Any transfer is amortised over the period of the contract and so say we spend £200m on players giving them 5 year contracts that's £40m per year. Transfer fees in are accounted for in full in the current year and so rough calculation £150m in, £40m in amortised fees out gives us a £110m book profit.
 
Loan + obligation doesn't sound too bad yeah, considering we're probably not that desperate for cash.

I have no doubts Jesus will thrive in Serie A

No you've missed my point.

An obligation to buy would be based on Jesus' current value, which is low.

After a year at Juventus IMO he'd be worth much more, so if you give them an obligation based on his current value, they'd be getting him on a massive discount in 2022. We shouldn't want an obligation.
 
I think the British media have conditioned us to think that these are mission impossible deals. They're not. They're commercial transactions, and regardless of the Levy LoveFest at the Athletic and down in London, there will be a commercial tipping point for him where he'll simply have to sell. In my opinion of course. I also think that were this deal dead, were it simply a case of him not being for sale, we would know that and City would've moved on.

On Grealish, contrary to what Sam has written, I was told a couple of days ago City have got cold feet. Lets see what transpires as it could all be about money, and people positioning themselves. Maybe Grealish is asking for KDB money and City have decided to pull back a little, and maybe his camp's reaction to that is to begin to leak that he'll sign a new deal at Villa.
Maybe Bernardo can't find a move. Especially after Atletico moved for Griezmann
 
Any transfer is amortised over the period of the contract and so say we spend £200m on players giving them 5 year contracts that's £40m per year. Transfer fees in are accounted for in full in the current year and so rough calculation £150m in, £40m in amortised fees out gives us a £110m book profit.
wow thanks for that
 
The point is we lost 120m, we need to turn that around to avoid issues after covid with FFP.

The loss was due to the accounting period change/tv deal and champions league pay out delay, but even with those we would not have made a big profit.

We still have to be careful , no guarantee stadiums will be full or the pandemic is over.

Some of the Silver Lake money is already being used towards offsetting costs.

I did say a while back that CFG would have a big financial stake in the new concert arena, which they have now recently bought a decent piece of.

With it being directly located on the stadium footprint, we can use those revenues and they also be counted towards FFP?

I think that's why City are very comfortable with the financial years to come - having built a money printing press right next to the Etihad!!
 
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