Bluemoon Angling Thread

snorky said:
I see a tributary of the Tay has had a landslide, turning the river brown.
Hopefully its gone through for next week and the grilse make an appearance.
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Landslide you say? The locals must have heard you were coming. Pretty desperate that. All to stop you catching a bloody fish.

where you staying mate?
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Landslide you say? The locals must have heard you were coming. Pretty desperate that. All to stop you catching a bloody fish.

where you staying mate?
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Yes mate, on the river Garry I think. I saw a clip and it looks like the Wye in spate!
We are near Aberfeldy.
 
back in the day, a metal tank aeriel was avalable in most tackle shops, very affordable. Some people soldered the rings on. First fixed spool i remember was French, an Omnia le Super, a bit rare, followed by the Intrepid. An Apollo Taperflash coupled with a Mitchell, was very popular for a time on the match circuit. The French national team were very successful using 18 ft rods, the fore-runner of the pole mania.
Angling was so popular, the M.E.N. would have a full page of match results, and water condition reports, always including " fishing well, large bags of roach and bream" which we used to ignore as a matter of course.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Might be the place for DD to end his perch quest?
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I may invite him onto the noted big perch spot but only because we've met and he won't broadcast the location. Plus he's a better lure angler than I am and I'm always up for taking up advice. It rarely gets fished so I'm keeping it quiet because the known barbel pegs above Stockport get hammered and i don't wanna see the same thing happen where I know on the river.
 
bellbuzzer said:
back in the day, a metal tank aeriel was avalable in most tackle shops, very affordable. Some people soldered the rings on. First fixed spool i remember was French, an Omnia le Super, a bit rare, followed by the Intrepid. An Apollo Taperflash coupled with a Mitchell, was very popular for a time on the match circuit. The French national team were very successful using 18 ft rods, the fore-runner of the pole mania.
Angling was so popular, the M.E.N. would have a full page of match results, and water condition reports, always including " fishing well, large bags of roach and bream" which we used to ignore as a matter of course.
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My brother is the curator of all our old stuff and I'm 99% certain we have an Apollo Taper Flash stored away. I know we broke my dad's because it was made of hollow metal and I stood on it. I'll get some pictures of some older stuff one day. Anyone remember those little tins of lead shot with the sliding lid that was fiendishly sharp ?
 
Newman Noggs said:
My brother is the curator of all our old stuff and I'm 99% certain we have an Apollo Taper Flash stored away. I know we broke my dad's because it was made of hollow metal and I stood on it. I'll get some pictures of some older stuff one day. Anyone remember those little tins of lead shot with the sliding lid that was fiendishly sharp ?
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Apollo were made by Accles and Pollock who supplied the golf club industry. Pretty much bullet-proof unless you stood on it :)
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
I may invite him onto the noted big perch spot but only because we've met and he won't broadcast the location. Plus he's a better lure angler than I am and I'm always up for taking up advice. It rarely gets fished so I'm keeping it quiet because the known barbel pegs above Stockport get hammered and i don't wanna see the same thing happen where I know on the river.
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Count me in when I’ve cleared the covid mate ;-)
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Count me in when I’ve cleared the covid mate ;-)
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No problems pal, I thought you'd be interested and I think you'd enjoy fishing there as the big perch stretch is more or less never fished, I bet they're in mint condition.

Like the Calder it has untapped potential. I used to fish the Tame regularly in the early 80s and in 1980 I was amazed when I caught a 1.8lb Chub because I didn't think they were in there. It's a river that always used to be getting polluted and a litter strewn dumping ground for fly tipping. As far as I'm aware it's free fishing on it's entire length and benefitted from Stockport Fed stocking it donkeys years ago when they controlled part of it. But the biggest problem on some stretches is inaccessibility and the fact that much of it is clear and shallow puts most off from fishing it. But river craft experience kind of screams out the pegs that are devoid of most fish, trout an exception of which it holds some fair sized fish in its oxygenated shallows.

Since I started driving in the 80s I've not really fished it at all due to having wheels and choice of venues but it flows only half a mile from me so i need to get off my lazy fat arse and go and do some roving with light spinning gear.
 
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BlueMoonRisin’ said:
No problems pal, I thought you'd be interested and I think you'd enjoy fishing there as the big perch stretch is more or less never fished, I bet they're in mint condition.

Like the Calder it has untapped potential. I used to fish the Tame regularly in the early 80s and in 1980 I was amazed when I caught a 1.8lb Chub because I didn't think they were in there. It's a river that always used to be getting polluted and a litter strewn dumping ground for fly tipping. As far as I'm aware it's free fishing on it's entire length and benefitted from Stockport Fed stocking it donkeys years ago when they controlled part of it. But the biggest problem on some stretches is inaccessibility and the fact that much of it is clear and shallow puts most off from fishing it. But river craft experience kind of screams out the pegs that are devoid of most fish, trout an exception of which it holds some fair sized fish in its oxygenated shallows.

Since I started driving in the 80s I've not really fished it at all due to having wheels and choice of venues but it flows only half a mile from me so i need to get off my lazy fat arse and go and do some roving with light spinning gear.
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I think the growth of commercials has led to less people fishing the rivers and, co sequently, there is a lot of untapped potential. As I've never tried to specialise until my recent river bream exploits, I've been amazed at how many bream are about. Good sized ones too and not just in the stretches where there are known shoals. Same with perch. There must be some bloody big river roach knocking about.

This weather though. It's as bad for fishing as extreme cold.
 
Newman Noggs said:
I think the growth of commercials has led to less people fishing the rivers and, co sequently, there is a lot of untapped potential. As I've never tried to specialise until my recent river bream exploits, I've been amazed at how many bream are about. Good sized ones too and not just in the stretches where there are known shoals. Same with perch. There must be some bloody big river roach knocking about.

This weather though. It's as bad for fishing as extreme cold.
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I agree, and a big part of rivers not getting fished is because a lot of the best swims are a hike and lazy anglers have it a on a plate at a drive to peg commercial.

2 of my mates went on a commercial match in Barnsley yesterday and Dave groaned he'd 'only' had 150lb. Only, lol. He's been fishing at least 30 years and is obsessed with commercial match fishing on small open matches. My other mate had a mere 80lb, poor bastards. Dave's a very good match angler and picks up at least a section place more than he doesn't but put him on a river with a stick-float rod and he's pretty much fucked, same goes for ledgering at range.

He regularly says I should take up match fishing commercials but I'd rather pull my teeth out with pliers than fish amongst pole wielding numpties who try and quickly haul as many fish out in a 5 hour match as possible.

As for big river roach, well they definitely aren't plentiful anymore, especially from northern rivers. You have a much better chance of specimen roach in the midlands on the Avon Severn and Wye and i feel envious of yourself and snorky having plenty of good fishing close by.

And as for it being hot and bad for fishing i partially disagree. I've had some really good catches on hot sunny days. First time i fished Snorky's stretch i had 30 barbel over 5lb and it was scorchio, mind you it was from a prolific swim and some casts the feeder never touched bottom as they were in a feeding frenzy.
I've also had several 50lb plus bags of roach and bream ledgering at range when it's been hot. There's no secret to fishing but accurate casting and not overfeeding a swim often leads to a successful days sport, even on a natural water.
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
I agree, and a big part of rivers not getting fished is because a lot of the best swims are a hike and lazy anglers have it a on a plate at a drive to peg commercial.

2 of my mates went on a commercial match in Barnsley yesterday and Dave groaned he'd 'only' had 150lb. Only, lol. He's been fishing at least 30 years and is obsessed with commercial match fishing on small open matches. My other mate had a mere 80lb, poor bastards. Dave's a very good match angler and picks up at least a section place more than he doesn't but put him on a river with a stick-float rod and he's pretty much fucked, same goes for ledgering at range.

He regularly says I should take up match fishing commercials but I'd rather pull my teeth out with pliers than fish amongst pole wielding numpties who try and quickly haul as many fish out in a 5 hour match as possible.

As for big river roach, well they definitely aren't plentiful anymore, especially from northern rivers. You have a much better chance of specimen roach in the midlands on the Avon Severn and Wye and i feel envious of yourself and snorky having plenty of good fishing close by.

And as for it being hot and bad for fishing i partially disagree. I've had some really good catches on hot sunny days. First time i fished Snorky's stretch i had 30 barbel over 5lb and it was scorchio, mind you it was from a prolific swim and some casts the feeder never touched bottom as they were in a feeding frenzy.
I've also had several 50lb plus bags of roach and bream ledgering at range when it's been hot. There's no secret to fishing but accurate casting and not overfeeding a swim often leads to a successful days sport, even on a natural water.
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Interesting. I always doze off in hot weather. Especially on dog day afternoons when the bites dry up. It's why I always have a comfortable chair.
 
Newman Noggs said:
Interesting. I always doze off in hot weather. Especially on dog day afternoons when the bites dry up. It's why I always have a comfortable chair.
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I fish mostly from my chair too as I'm happy enough in the slow fishing lane these days. I have an old Brilo match box with Octoplus fittings and the rare occasion i fish with it I'm always more alert to striking fast bites because I'm on the rod at all times. But like I've mentioned several times in past posts I don't feel the need to test myself to the limit anymore, can't be arsed trying most of the time. When I do though and it goes smoothly (without having a mare sesh) i can usually catch plenty if the fish are having it.
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
I agree, and a big part of rivers not getting fished is because a lot of the best swims are a hike and lazy anglers have it a on a plate at a drive to peg commercial.

2 of my mates went on a commercial match in Barnsley yesterday and Dave groaned he'd 'only' had 150lb. Only, lol. He's been fishing at least 30 years and is obsessed with commercial match fishing on small open matches. My other mate had a mere 80lb, poor bastards. Dave's a very good match angler and picks up at least a section place more than he doesn't but put him on a river with a stick-float rod and he's pretty much fucked, same goes for ledgering at range.

He regularly says I should take up match fishing commercials but I'd rather pull my teeth out with pliers than fish amongst pole wielding numpties who try and quickly haul as many fish out in a 5 hour match as possible.

As for big river roach, well they definitely aren't plentiful anymore, especially from northern rivers. You have a much better chance of specimen roach in the midlands on the Avon Severn and Wye and i feel envious of yourself and snorky having plenty of good fishing close by.

And as for it being hot and bad for fishing i partially disagree. I've had some really good catches on hot sunny days. First time i fished Snorky's stretch i had 30 barbel over 5lb and it was scorchio, mind you it was from a prolific swim and some casts the feeder never touched bottom as they were in a feeding frenzy.
I've also had several 50lb plus bags of roach and bream ledgering at range when it's been hot. There's no secret to fishing but accurate casting and not overfeeding a swim often leads to a successful days sport, even on a natural water.
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Match fishing has changed with commercials. Blokes fishing with 5 keepnets and catching huge weghts of F1's and carp. Nothing like the matchfishing I grew up with which was the likes of Ivan Marks, Bob Nudd, Tommy Pickering etc who appeared to be incredible allrounders - capable of bagging up when the fish were having it, but also instinctively knowing when 5-10lb of silvers would win and being able to do all that too.
I'm not sure if similar matchfishing at international level is even happening now, or if it's all fishomania type stuff with 50k prizes. I doubt there used to be that sort of money in it or Bob Nudd would've had a hair transplant instead of a shit white cap.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Match fishing has changed with commercials. Blokes fishing with 5 keepnets and catching huge weghts of F1's and carp. Nothing like the matchfishing I grew up with which was the likes of Ivan Marks, Bob Nudd, Tommy Pickering etc who appeared to be incredible allrounders - capable of bagging up when the fish were having it, but also instinctively knowing when 5-10lb of silvers would win and being able to do all that too.
I'm not sure if similar matchfishing at international level is even happening now, or if it's all fishomania type stuff with 50k prizes. I doubt there used to be that sort of money in it or Bob Nudd would've had a hair transplant instead of a shit white cap.
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Match fishing on non commercial waters getting rarer that's for sure. Take the local Bridgewater canal for example. Upto about 30 years ago there'd be 100plus peg mstches every weekend, sometimes on Saturday and Sunday. I used to cycle miles regularly until last year and some days I'd not see anyone pleasure fishing at all.

Part of me wants to buy a new pole and seatbox and get amongst the in crowd but then I have a word with myself and realise it's not my scene.

All those anglers you mention are proper all rounders equally adept in using all methods. Bob Nudd made it look easy and I've sat behind him in awe of his skills. Shit white cap though: )
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
Match fishing on non commercial waters getting rarer that's for sure. Take the local Bridgewater canal for example. Upto about 30 years ago there'd be 100plus peg mstches every weekend, sometimes on Saturday and Sunday. I used to cycle miles regularly until last year and some days I'd not see anyone pleasure fishing at all.

Part of me wants to buy a new pole and seatbox and get amongst the in crowd but then I have a word with myself and realise it's not my scene.

All those anglers you mention are proper all rounders equally adept in using all methods. Bob Nudd made it look easy and I've sat behind him in awe of his skills. Shit white cap though: )
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When me and mates go out now we always mention ,we should have an evening down at Agden, but it never happens, just a change in habit probably. Bet there are no pegs "dug out" behind Old No 3.
 
its grim up north said:
When me and mates go out now we always mention ,we should have an evening down at Agden, but it never happens, just a change in habit probably. Bet there are no pegs "dug out" behind Old No 3.
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Fished a lot at Agden because my mate used to live in the White House by the bridge. Trouble is boat traffic these days but, like you, I fully intend to revisit one day.
 
many years ago the Ashurst's used to get more "spectators" at Agden than some football clubs. The collective "sigh" as the scales came round, a very muted roar is the only way i can describe it.
 
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